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  Prophecies and 'end'

  by jamesd2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey ya people,.

  hope all is well :) i know i havent posted much or atall really so sorry about that im just needing a little help i am i8 years old......., im just wondering because i am curretly friends with jw's and stuff (im not babtised though) and they keep sayng to me about the prohecies in the bible like the bible preticted ww1 to the exact date...religon is going to be banned in the great tribulation (then the end will happen) about the 7 global powers or something, and america now are the last superpower before the world ends, (anglo-saxon or something...) .

  i just need help about these...are these true?

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  OldSoul

  JamesD2004,

  Yes. I am baptized. I will be happy to discuss my beliefs by Private Message with you, if you like.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Well, well, well.... How About It For The Self-Professed Pagan Friar?!

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5031214/detail.html?subid=22100405&qs=1;bp=t

  we need vigilantes to take care of people like these.

  so many of these scum of the earth out there!

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  Skally,

  I don't think it will continue to be a problem.

  OldSoul
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  Prophecies and 'end'

  by jamesd2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey ya people,.

  hope all is well :) i know i havent posted much or atall really so sorry about that im just needing a little help i am i8 years old......., im just wondering because i am curretly friends with jw's and stuff (im not babtised though) and they keep sayng to me about the prohecies in the bible like the bible preticted ww1 to the exact date...religon is going to be banned in the great tribulation (then the end will happen) about the 7 global powers or something, and america now are the last superpower before the world ends, (anglo-saxon or something...) .

  i just need help about these...are these true?

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  OldSoul

  EliJah,

  I believe anyone can make themselves a faithful and discreet slave, just as anyone could say in his heart, "My Master is delaying."

  James2004,

  You are welcome! Come back and visit for tips on reasoning with your JW classmates.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Prophecies and 'end'

  by jamesd2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey ya people,.

  hope all is well :) i know i havent posted much or atall really so sorry about that im just needing a little help i am i8 years old......., im just wondering because i am curretly friends with jw's and stuff (im not babtised though) and they keep sayng to me about the prohecies in the bible like the bible preticted ww1 to the exact date...religon is going to be banned in the great tribulation (then the end will happen) about the 7 global powers or something, and america now are the last superpower before the world ends, (anglo-saxon or something...) .

  i just need help about these...are these true?

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  OldSoul

  It was originally a slave, in the person of Charles Taze Russell. After his death, Rutherford took the mantle but eventually began to teach that it was a class of people. That teaching is not founded on Scripture as far as I can tell. No Witness has been able to substantiate Scripturally that the Faithful and Discreet Slave is a class.

  The insidious nature of this teaching is not readily apparent to a new student. As a student studies, they are taught to rely on that Slave instead of and as a replacement for the Bible and Christ.

  Although most Witnesses never really think about it in these terms, that is the effect of their "educational program." For instance, most Witnesses would not believe there was anything wrong with the following expression:

  "Jehovah's organization today is a modern day ark, into which he is ushering all sorts of flesh for salvation."

  I have heard similar comments from the platform, comments in the Watchtower study, and in conversations with Witnesses. This thinking is based on information from the "Slave":

  w71 7/15 p. 446 Circumcised in Heart and Ears
  There is a remnant of this Zion class still on earth, representing God's organization. This is where he invites those to come who realize their need for a place of safety, similar to the provision God made at the time of the Flood. He then provided the ark, wherein he "kept Noah . . . safe with seven others."

  No true Jehovah's Witness that I know would think of wondering whether Christ had been supplanted by an organization as God's means for salvation. Not only has that been changed, the need for a personal relationship with Jesus has been perverted into a need for a personal relationship with a corporation.

  In my opinion, insidious doesn't begin to touch describing how vile this treachery is.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Its very strange-----------------

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  ----------------- that when i was going to 5 meetings a week, 20 hours service a month (im not boasting, well maybe i am a bit ) it was all so boring but now..............i spend hours on this forum, talking about stuff that used to make me groan why ????????

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  OldSoul

  Again, I beg that we honor defd's request to have this thread stay off him. It is obvious to everyone, including defd, that his presence here directly violates instructions from the Governing Body. He apparently has no problem with that and I certainly do not. I would hope that eventually every one of my family members would feel the same way.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Why Fundyism is Irrational

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lately i've been putting a lot of thought in to what is rational and what must be relegated to faith alone.

  ever since the scientific method was discovered, humanity has attempted to put it to work in so many areas.

  after all, discoveries exploded once we were set free from the shackles of tradition.

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  OldSoul

  Shining One,

  My faith in regards to my view of this issue is not in any way founded on process charts or jgnat's way of arriving at her conclusions. My faith in regards to my views is based on a simply worded chapter in the Bible.

  1 Corinthians 2

  I agree with Paul. The spiritual man can see both the physical and the spiritual with clarity. But, the spiritual is not made known through the physical. The spiritual is ONLY made known through the Holy Spirit. You cannot teach spiritual things to a physical man because they are foolishness to him.

  Do you agree with Paul? I will leave it to you and your conscience to determine whether you owe me an apology for your maligning comments directed toward me.

  In other words, as has been stated repeatedly to you, the Scientific Method, a process designed to examine ONLY the physical, is not suitable for bolstering, supporting, proving, or otherwise addressing spiritual things. It is self-limiting in ways that prevent its use in examining anything spiritual.

  OldSoul
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  Prophecies and 'end'

  by jamesd2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey ya people,.

  hope all is well :) i know i havent posted much or atall really so sorry about that im just needing a little help i am i8 years old......., im just wondering because i am curretly friends with jw's and stuff (im not babtised though) and they keep sayng to me about the prohecies in the bible like the bible preticted ww1 to the exact date...religon is going to be banned in the great tribulation (then the end will happen) about the 7 global powers or something, and america now are the last superpower before the world ends, (anglo-saxon or something...) .

  i just need help about these...are these true?

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  OldSoul

  WELCOME EliJah!!!

  Don't be shy, start a thread of your own.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Its very strange-----------------

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  ----------------- that when i was going to 5 meetings a week, 20 hours service a month (im not boasting, well maybe i am a bit ) it was all so boring but now..............i spend hours on this forum, talking about stuff that used to make me groan why ????????

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  OldSoul

  I think we should try to respect defd's request for some breathing room. We all have a sense of some of the motivations for coming here, if he doesn't feel that the folks at the hall belong with him that is his prerogative. I do understand why the motivations for someone posting here is in keeping with the thread topic, but he has asked nicely to be left alone about his motives and the particulars of his relationships at the hall. I think we can respect that request, don't you guys?

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Its very strange-----------------

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  ----------------- that when i was going to 5 meetings a week, 20 hours service a month (im not boasting, well maybe i am a bit ) it was all so boring but now..............i spend hours on this forum, talking about stuff that used to make me groan why ????????

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  OldSoul

  defd: But for me, I speak my mind and tell it like it is to the "FRIENDS"

  LOL! No wonder you don't hang around them much. I imagine they don't let you.
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  Its very strange-----------------

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  ----------------- that when i was going to 5 meetings a week, 20 hours service a month (im not boasting, well maybe i am a bit ) it was all so boring but now..............i spend hours on this forum, talking about stuff that used to make me groan why ????????

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  OldSoul

  gringoj,

  You have made your point. We all know he likes us better. Our discussion aren't boring bouts of someone spouting a "truth" and everyone else nodding or clapping as triggered by placid minds unruffled by any new thought, and hardly any thought at all.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul