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[extracts from letter of 10 july 1990, addressed "to whom it may concern:"].
Does art have a purpose?
Since they take the time to create the illustrations WITH A PURPOSE in the first place, why is it such a stretch that they would tamper with them, even if it is just for the fun in doing it ... or because they CAN ... or because it is artistic?
thought i would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of jws.... -----------------------------------------------------------------.
just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in december, during the christmas season, which is entitled "the golden compass".
the film stars nicole kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "his dark materials" written by phillip pullman of england .
Ill definitely see it and read them now lol. BTW Truman Show was totally a jw eye opener in my opinion.
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
I don't want to edit my comments. It would take too much time to go back and read and guess which comments offended someone. I didn't mean to offend.
However, I want to state that when I was a newbie we had Kent Steinhaug, Norm, and my favorite hottie, JanH, all atheists and all more blunt and vocal and "offensive" if you will, than I could ever be.
I remember being hurt and offended by their boldness so many times. I didn't want to see what they were saying. I was too busy being hurt and offended. In reality, everything they said made cognitive sense. I just didn't want to have anyone take away my faith. I needed it at that time.
But I would never have dreamed to come on here and cry like a baby and tell them to stop voicing their opinion. It would have been rude of me and I wouldn't even have dared had I thought of it.
I must say I'm sorry if I have offended anyone. But I'm also sorry you are so easily offended. Maybe you might consider growing up. We all have to. We've all been newbies at one time or another. It's a tough world. But the more you grow, the better life becomes. I sincerely hope you take this the right way. If a topic offends you, you have the choice not to participate available to you. Or you can argue your point. Aren't Christians supposed to be able to argue their point anyway?
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
Have you already made up YOUR mind? Im open minded. I know I dont know everything about everything. Thats why I asked the question. Because the whole thing is lacking in adequate evidence, substance, just plain fathomable reason... Maybe you are the one who is afraid to accept the fact that without faith, this teaching could never make sense to have come from a "loving father".
i cannot but read many of the posts in which god/jehovah or even christ is ridiculed, mocked and even hated?
so i ask the question why?.
what has god ever done to you personally?
I don't hate god. I hate what people have made up about god. And I DETEST what organizations have done in the name of god!
What some might term "ridicule" others might just term "irreverence."
I don't personally care one way or another if someone believes in god. But I'm entitled to my opinion. If it bothers you to talk to someone who is not reverent for what they believe to be myths, then why bother joining in to the conversation?
I think anyone who joins in needs to suck it up and take it like a man!
this looks like a highly controversial book, but loaded with facts.. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0932813747/qid=1011422472/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_3_1/103-3310739-4927820.
i haven't ordered it yet, and wanted some opinions if there are any here.
the following are comments and excerpts:.
Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical about the whole "conspiracy" thing. I needed a good book to read since I'm almost done with what I'm reading now. Thanks for the heads up.
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
Aaargh reading this thread has made me cry.
I'm an atheist, but not a very good one yet (so is atheist the right word?) cos theres this teeny tiny nagging doubt right down deep in the darkest corner of my subconscious.
BlueSapphire, what you're saying is just like what I'm thinking and I'm rofl at that pic from What-A-Coincidence, I totally agree and I don't believe in this stuff anymore. But then there's this little voice (well not a real voice, I'm not that crazy yet) that's saying HOW DARE YOU! Jesus died for you, Jesus suffered for you and you laugh at the ridiculousness of it.
What RSMHobbit said. It's like a knife in my brain. I used to cry at the thought of Jesus suffering.
I used to cry at that too! I cried when I saw the "Passion" movie. But you know what? I cry at a lot of movies - fiction or non-fiction! And the ones that are the worst are the ones that are based on true life stories.
Have you seen the movie, "The Road to Guantanamo"? Now those guys were tortured too. They were innocent too. And it really happened! Now that's something to really cry about. Cry and get angry about!
Here we are in the 21st century and people are wasting their lives away crying over a sacrifice that supposedly happened 2000 years ago of an innocent man. But that's all it was. If the man, Jesus, actually lived, I'm sure he'd be surprised to learn that 2000 years later there are over 35,000 sects in his name, all claiming to know the absolute truth about him!
It's hard to let go of the things you hold dear to your heart. This stuff has permeated our culture. And my position is very unpopular. I don't dare voice my true beliefs at work in an elementary school! That would be professional suicide.
And just so you know, I cried too. I cried lots and lots. I got it all out and now I'm free.
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
If I could have this explained in an understandable way once and for all, I would be grateful (and that's not a joke, actually).
You know I felt that way for a long time. Then I fell for the ransom con by the Watchtower. But deep down inside I always knew something was "off".
Eventually, after years, I realized what it was. It was hard to let go of this belief because it was dear to my heart - having been brought up Catholic then reverted to Catholicism ... I needed it for crying out loud!
But in the end, reason won out. And I'm so much happier for it. I like knowing this is probably the only life I'm going to get and I don't waste my time feeling guilty for non-sins which religion imposes on people.
I want to live a secular life and leave my mark for my children and their futures and anyone else I come into contact with along the way. And this is liberating!
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
LOL ... yeah cuz NO ONE besides Jesus has ever been tortured. The fact is that Jesus (if it even happened) is not the only human to have undergone such an experience and even worse. And if this experience happened to me, it would be a crime as it was with Jesus, but no religion would come of it.
And it was pointless and done for a stupid reason, that being some dim-wits eating a fruit and his own father condemning him for that act which he had nothing to do with. Even if it was Adam who had undergone what Jesus underwent, the punishment inflicted on him BY GOD surely can't remotely be considered to fit the crime, let alone someone who was innocent.
That's why your xtian story gets ridiculed, because it doesn't even meet up to our own system of justice, as flawed as it is.
what was the big deal with that dam tree to begin with!
Maybe as the Gatorade commerical says
"Everyone wants to be like Mike"
2 Coe 11:13,14 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Mimmiacing(?) God is nothing new!
Last I checked "everyone" wasn't involved LOL. And how can I be a "false apostle" or a "deceitful workman" or "masquerading" when I am not claiming to have anything to do with Christ? And there goes that bad-ass Satan again. I hope Christian churches get what their actions deserve!
The verb is "mimic" which means impersonate. May I suggest you put down yer bible and pick up yer dictionary! Cuz last I checked no one on this board was impersonating god.
