Can anyone give me the offical time when the society realised that the annointed made up the faithfull and discreet slave not just russle. thanks.
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offical date that the annointed became the slave.
by ajie incan anyone give me the offical time when the society realised that the annointed made up the faithfull and discreet slave not just russle.
thanks.
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annointed as faithfull dicreet slave
by ajie ini no its a subject thats been through the mills quite a few times but can anyone tell me when the idea that the body of annointed brothers made up the faithfull and discreet slave and not russle alone,any watchtower quotes to back it up.
thanks.
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ajie
I no its a subject thats been through the mills quite a few times but can anyone tell me when the idea that the body of annointed brothers made up the faithfull and discreet slave and not russle alone,any watchtower quotes to back it up. thanks.
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Not many from 33-1919
by ajie inread a post yesterday where someone had the number of partakers in 1935 the cut off year,the number of partakers(annointed) was 52465 this dosnt leave many places for the people before the org was chosen in 1919.so the total number of places in heaven before 1935 was 91535.it seems that there cant of been many true followers in the 1902 years prior to their being chosen,in fact it works out there were only 48 annointed spaces per year.but suddenly from 1919 to 1935 a period of only 16 years we have an increase of holy ones to 3279 per year .this is so obviously rubbish,and how the hell did they no there were 91535 annointed before them,hope that all makes sense.
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ajie
Read a post yesterday where someone had the number of partakers in 1935 the cut off year,the number of partakers(annointed) was 52465 this dosnt leave many places for the people before the org was chosen in 1919.So the total number of places in heaven before 1935 was 91535.It seems that there cant of been many true followers in the 1902 years prior to their being chosen,in fact it works out there were only 48 annointed spaces per year.But suddenly from 1919 to 1935 a period of only 16 years we have an increase of holy ones to 3279 per year .this is so obviously rubbish,and how the hell did they no there were 91535 annointed before them,hope that all makes sense.
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Was Jesus the first creation.
by ajie inas i mentioned in my last post that im studying the book what the bible really teaches,anyway im now on the bit about who is jesus,now it uses the scripture col1:15 does this prove he was created where it says hes the firstborn.
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ajie
Joseph wont address verse 16 cause his argument wont hold up ,you cant create all things and be created, my ten year old boy can understand that, please explain in simple terms if this aint so in a way a ten year old can understand or cant you Jo.
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Who was Rachel of Ramah?
by truthseeker inwhen herod saw that he was outwitted by the astrologers, who were supposed to reveal to herod the whereabouts of jesus, he ordered that all males 2 and under in bethlehem and its districts be killed.. matthew 2:17 says "then that was fulfilled which was spoken through jeremiah the prophet, saying: "a voice was heard in ramah, weeping and much wailing: it was rachel weeping for her children, and she was unwilling to take comfort, because they are no more.".
a look at jeremiah 31:15, 16 read as follows: "this is what jehovah has said, 'in ramah a voice is being heard, lamentation and much weeping; rachel weeping over her sons.
she has refused to be comforted over her sons, because they are no more.
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ajie
cant it apply to the mothers of the tribe of benjamin represented by rachel,crying over all the kiddys being killed by herod
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Was Jesus the first creation.
by ajie inas i mentioned in my last post that im studying the book what the bible really teaches,anyway im now on the bit about who is jesus,now it uses the scripture col1:15 does this prove he was created where it says hes the firstborn.
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Thanks Legolas.
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Was Jesus the first creation.
by ajie inas i mentioned in my last post that im studying the book what the bible really teaches,anyway im now on the bit about who is jesus,now it uses the scripture col1:15 does this prove he was created where it says hes the firstborn.
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ajie
So was he the first creation,well from what im actually reading here i will have to answer the question in the book like this,i dont beleive he is,but it seems most people aint sure what it means and its quite confusing.Not really a solid answer but thats where im at right now.
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Was Jesus the first creation.
by ajie inas i mentioned in my last post that im studying the book what the bible really teaches,anyway im now on the bit about who is jesus,now it uses the scripture col1:15 does this prove he was created where it says hes the firstborn.
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Ok thanks for the mass of replys,i see most beleive jesus as being not created ,and the few of you that do think hes a creation write and sound much like j.ws and seem to be the ruder of the folks on here Joshephm being the main one that springs to mind.Anyway thanks to all who have actually tryed to answer my question,i think the simplisity of the reply saying that jesus cant be part of (all) creation and creat all things is the logical argument ill use in my next studie session as the jws aways hark on about logical reasoning,and the fact that firstborn seems more to do with position not order of birth.Also him being the only begotton of the father seems to say to me hes the only thing from the same substance as god,as my son begotton of me is indeed part of me,he carrys my genes,d.n.a if i could creat a little boy he would be someone ive made not beggoton of me,this may sound a bit stupid and simple as im not that educated thats just my way of seeing things.
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Was Jesus the first creation.
by ajie inas i mentioned in my last post that im studying the book what the bible really teaches,anyway im now on the bit about who is jesus,now it uses the scripture col1:15 does this prove he was created where it says hes the firstborn.
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As i mentioned in my last post that im studying the book what the bible really teaches,anyway im now on the bit about who is Jesus,now it uses the scripture col1:15 does this prove he was created where it says hes the firstborn.
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will the earth be destroyed.
by ajie ini am a present studying the book what does the bible really teach,and am unable to counter the bit where they say the new earth is people and not the literal earth,ive pointed out scriptures that say it will be burned up e.c.t.but the guy relates it to noahs day when the earth was not literal earth that was destroyed but the wicked people,he says this is the same with the new world to come,it is the rightouse people, at the moment we agree to disagree but does anyone know a good way to counter this argument.though doing a goggle search on the subject it seems to me that christians have all sorts of veiws on the subject which only leaves me more confused.
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ajie
Thankyou all so much for your replies,you lot make me feel quite dump im always amazed at the knowlege out there,and thanks for the welcomes,having this study is already paying off as my wife who has been a witness about a year is now questioning the idea of a paradise earth brought about be the watchtower over the thousand years, she can see that the earth is gonna be changed by god not man,and agrees that the bible says it will be destroyed in some manner.Once again thanks, im sure ill be posting many more questions in the near future.