Posts by BluesBrother

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The Society and 1975.

by Lost in the fog in

stumbled upon this article - not that the wt society ever highlighted the date of 1975, but that was brothers running ahead... .

w68 8/15 pp.

494-501. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1968602#h=1:0 .

Like many others I was there. There were several articles highlighting the importance of the then future year 1975. The first time I saw it was in a chart in a study book printed in the late sixties . The momentum grew as years went by.

We knew that The Society had not actually said that Armageddon would be on or before September 1975 but they sure hinted it strong enough . That was good enough for most of the dubs at the time. I mean, what were. We supposed to think?

One typical view as voiced by an elder I remember. He said “ I am certain that Jehovah would not allow the Society to be so wrong over this important matter “

How wrong we were!

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2020-New-October-Elders-Manual-Addendum-and-S-147-Announcements! (as of 2020-10-02)

by Atlantis in

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friends

new--2020-october--shepherd the flock of god--elder manual.

new--2020-october--addendum to elder manual.

2020--october-s-147-e--announcements and reminders.

BluesBrother

Thanks for the Shepherding Flock book ,Atlantis &Petra. What would we do without you ?

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Thank Jehovah for the food box's

by Fadeaway1962 in

https://thecounter.org/churches-usda-covid-19-food-boxes-boundaries-church-and-state/.

BluesBrother

It would be funny if they were officially reprimanded for this. I have had a job to grasp this matter in previous comments because when the U k gave food boxes to vulnerable people they came direct, even if the delivery people were volunteering. There was no named charity involved. I understand a bit better now.

NB . It is a bit much to dress it up as a gift from Jehovah when it is provided by the government. You would think even the older dubs would see through that one

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Anthony Morris wants former Jehovah's Witnesses DEAD

by neat blue dog in

in a disgusting new video, anthony morris iii talks about apostates, and brings to mind his 'hot dog' talk all over again as he anticipates the demise of ex-jehovah's witnesses.

i don't know if you're familiar with maggots, but when you see a whole bunch of them it's not a pleasant sight.. .

what a fitting picture of the final end of all of god's enemies.

BluesBrother

There is something about A M 3rd. You will remember his polemic about " tight pants" ? I think it was the same talk tbat railed against women wearing "Spanx" clothing. That brought a ton of criticism, not that he would care.

Now we , who are elsewhere in the literature viewed as lost sheep are vilified as maggots fit to be destroyed, gone in a puff of smoke. He claims not to take pleasure in the death of people but tnen contradicts that showing he revels in the idea of our gruesome death.

This seems to have been triggured by watching a news bulletin. Really? If that be the case I suggest this guy is subject to serious depression. . Perhaps that is why he takes whisky.

Well, let him enjoy it while he can, locked down at Warwick. He will discover that he cannot escape old age and death , just like the rest of us.

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Today s wt

by road to nowhere in

quote from the introduction:.

some apparently claimed to have received a special, mystical knowledge from god.e but their teaching contradicted jesus’ message and encouraged selfishness and a lack of love.

so john calls these teachers antichrists, or those who teach against christ.

BluesBrother

Teaching contrary to the words of Jesus makes you literally anti Christ. I can see that But the way the WTS apply it, one has only to disagree with the current teaching of the Watchtower magazine, to attract that accusation.

Eg. Supposing back in the nineties you voiced the view that the entire remaining remnant of the 144K were not the faithful and discreet slave , you would have been d/f’d .. but they would agree with you now.

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jehober "always'" protects his 'loyal servants'?

by eyeuse2badub in

last week i watched the docuseries on prime video called “the last narc”.

it was mainly about the notorious mexican guadalajara drug cartel during the 70’s and 80’s and a united states dea agent, kiki camerena, who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered in guadalajara, mexico in 1984. this is a very well-known and haunting event here in the usa.. however, there was also about a 7-8 minute segment during the docuseries that graphically detailed the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 4 jehovah’s witnesses that also took place just days before kiki camerena was taken.

the jw’s were 2 married couples, us citizens, dennis and rose carlson, ben and pat mascarenas.

BluesBrother

Yes.... stuff happens . It is a fact of life and J Ws are as much at risk as anybody else.

in 2017 a bro. went to an empty K Hall down in Devon. He was there to do a job of work. While he was there alone a man turned up and accosted him, stabbing him fatally. There was nothing wrong about the victim, he was just unlucky... The killer was later committed to a secure mental institution.

So the man enjoyed no special protection from Jehovah.

Long before I lost faith in it, I had worked out that there was no protection in this life.

Back in the 80's somebody planted a bomb in an Australian K Hall. It went off during the meeting with some loss of life and serious injuries.someone sent us a tape recording of a talk in which a speaker attempted to explain God's protection, saying ,in effect , that it could have been far worse. That was no explanation for us and we recognized that they were just victims of a horrible crime.

Of course a dub might say that Jehovah protects his people in the long run by the provision of a resurrection hope !

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Re: Mad Apostate's form letter

by Mulan in

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in regards to the following letter, that mad apostate posted last week: .

to whom it may concern: .

your harassing inquiries into our personal affairs are not welcomed, and any further attempts at such will result in legal action against the individual harassers, the --city--, --state-- congregation of jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc., the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, inc., and all associated watchower legal entities.

BluesBrother

A blast from the past.. Dear old Mulan. I wonder how she is now......

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You Know You're A Jehovah's Witness When...

by pale.emperor in

you know you're a jehovah's witness when.... being offered a scholarship to a good university is considered a bad thing.. when you see a house you like you claim it for after your god kills the owner.. you recieve spiritual guidence from a bus driver and a window washer.. you're engaged to a person you only met 3 months ago.. your widowed mother is marrying a man she met at the convention who she's known for 2 weeks.. there's jehovah's witnesses meeting in your house on a saturday morning to talk about going out knocking on doors on a saturday morning.. a lie in on a weekend happens about twice a year.. you dont talk to your own parents/children because they have a different opinion about a magazine.. you're not quite sure what you're supposed to believe anymore.. when someone criticizes your a magazine you feel like you're being attacked.. your 3yo son owns a suit.. if you're not married by the age of 30 you're considered to be gay or something wrong with you.. (for girls) if you havent married the first or second person you've dated you're considered promiscuous or something wrong with you.. you get your scientific knowledge from a magazine written by people who've never been to college and have never actually read the source they claim to be citing.. you get excited if there's a storm or natural disaster.. you get excited when there's a terrorist attack.. you get excited when there's a pandemic.. your version of tinder is the lunch break at a convention.. your girlfriend dresses like her grandmother.. your grandparents, despite being in the same religion as you, died believing totally a different belief system..

BluesBrother

You find the Covid 19 pandemic a reason to "raise up your head and rejoice"

You feel strongly about the politics of your country but you never dare say so outside of home and you never ever vote.

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KH flying Chilean Flags??

by Vanderhoven7 in

i saw a headline saying chile is demanding religious organizations fly the nations flag.. is this accurate?

is the society complying?.

https://jwsurvey.org/tag/jehovahs-witnesses.

BluesBrother

From Wikipedia. ..

"The Fiestas Patrias (literally Homeland Holidays)[1] of Chile consist of two days, with a third one added on some years:

18 September, in commemoration of the proclamation of the First Governing Body of 1810, and marking the beginning of the Chilean Independence process.
19 September, known as the "Day of the Glories of the Army"............
In Chile, it is mandatory to hang the Chilean flag from every building in the country on 18 and 19 September (and 21 May as well).[8] The flag should be in perfect condition, hung from a white pole or from the front of every building, horizontally or vertically. If hung vertically, the star should always be in the upper left corner, visible from the front of the building. Violation of this rule is punishable with fines in local currency of up to 40,000 pesos (about US$80),[9] although it is not strictly enforced."
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In view of the above I Dont see how they can say that no principle is involved . Displaying the flag tells the community that you are patriots and supporting " the glorious army"....

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

BluesBrother

Often thought along these lines... Actually, in the past I think they did honour Jesus more, certainly the old anointed bros of my childhood would speak of "The Lord" in warm terms . It was not Jehovah they meant but Jesus with whom they felt a special bond.

It was JFR who coined the organization's name in the mid '30s as the Great Crowd were identified in their beliefs.

As others have said, the Bible says, All the Judging is delegated to the Son( John ch 5) and it is he who seperates the sheep from the goats (Matt 25) . Furthermore "In the name of Jesus every knee should bend (Php. 2)

At one time we they used to use the expression 'Jehovah's Christian Witnesses ' .That was a bit better.