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  The arrogance of the "True Believer"

  by Norm in

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  both political and religious true believers often distinguish themselves by their limitless arrogance towards people who dare hold different opinions from them.

  every thing has to be done on their terms; people who think differently cant expect to have the same rights as those who consider themselves true believers.

  in this way a elite is created a kind of spiritual master race.

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  BluesBrother

  I think we need to be a little balanced here.. That quote that spoke of execution and disfellowshiping was over 70 years ago. Those who wrote it must be dead by now.

  Today there is a different mindset and the organisation has changed no end . Check out the recent writings on the subject and the attitude is one of trying to show mercy . I don’t say this in support of them but neither should we be unfair in our criticism.

  Sea Breeze’s comment about being careful when choosing leaders is very true . All those who vote , wherever they may be, should remember that.
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  Has the Organization threatened to disfellowship those who state views countering those of the Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  do you have quotations from watchtower literature regarding how to handle those contributing to disunity in the congregation?.

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  BluesBrother

  In the latest softening of attitudes and reluctance to d/f I am pretty sure that Elders are told to “ lovingly try to restore such a person “ before jumping quickly to a committee. However, if you persist in such views and especially if you are speaking to others about it , that WT of 1986 still applies. ( see Konagirl’s comment above)

  Nb, I have got away with asking questions and expressing doubts before now but I have been careful how I said it and not gone around the congregation saying it. I guess they see me as harmless.
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  Celebrities Who Hate Jw's?

  by Ron.W. in

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  do you recall any?.

  i was told that john denver hated jw's with a vengeance - any truth in that?.

  also, annie lennox - i was told before a concert she asked any jw's present to leave?.

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  BluesBrother

  It is all utter rubbish, otherwise known as the stuff that falls out of a bovine’s rear end !

  NB .. the dubs used to love repeating it though. It feeds their persecution complex
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  The Book Study Group - Reminiscing

  by ukpimo in

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  2. beliefs

  any fond memories or funny stories relating to the old book study arrangement?.

  i remember a time when a new sister turned up with very smart jacket and shirt.

  yet she was wearing trousers and when questioned by everyone she said "blimey, i think geoff (her husband) is wearing my skirt!".

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  BluesBrother

  I too have fond memories of the Tuesday night Group meetings.

  we would study those old books about prophecies… total bullshit but it was fascinating at the time . Then we would have tea and biscuits.. everyone chipped in with something we stayed for ages .

  Yes we had a few nutters too . I remember poor old John. He was really mentally challenged and his mother had to bring him , he couldn’t be left alone . Trouble was he used to mutter to himself using obscenities. So I sat him between his mum and a big brother who worked all day on the dust cart and was well used to it…

  Happy days ….
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  2024--Become a Circuit Overseer in Your Mid-to-Late 20's!

  by Atlantis in

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  become a circuit overseer in your mid to late 20's.

  you would have had to qualify as an elder previously.

  this would mean the male would have had to have been an elder in his early 20's.

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  BluesBrother

  Well , since the c/o is merely a company man these days , repeating the lines of the Org , I suppose that a younger man could.

  I would have fears though about their stability and resistance to temptations . When the young c.o .is a target for the single sisters , will he have the experience to avoid traps?
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  Remember the sex talks?

  by KerryKing in

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  i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.

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  i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?

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  BluesBrother

  No , they don’t do talks or write WT articles like that anymore. I think you are right that anything dubious these days would be on the net in no time.

  I agree that it was all very much “ in your face” and basic . You could not be a JW kid and not know the facts of life… it was too much , too public .
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  Awake 1976 - Should a Pocket Calculator Be in Your Pocket?

  by Ron.W. in

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  2. bible

  awake 1976 - should a pocket calculator be in your pocket?.

  somehow this totally zany 'bible based' article passed me by first time around!.

  anyone remember it?.

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  BluesBrother

  That article well and truly belongs in the past. It was the sort of thing we giggled at and ignored at the time. Mind you it does make a fair point about the loss of one’s mental arithmetic ability. As a young man I could add up a list of figures in my head quite happily. Now ? …… no chance.
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  Has The "Evil Slave" Died Out?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  those of us who have deep roots into watchtower remember the shadowy whispers about "the evil slave" when we were kids.. for those that need to get up to speed: .

  the internal crisis came to its full with the occurrence of an outstanding bible-predicted event, namely, the coming of jehovah’s “messenger,” christ jesus, to jehovah’s temple for judgment in the spring of 1918, to separate the “faithful and discreet slave” class from the “evil slave” group.

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  BluesBrother

  The “Evil Slave” is an anachronism that belongs in the past. The Watchtower no longer teaches that it is a real thing .. It is a phrase that you will not hear in today’s Organisation.

  Also, They changed the wording of the NWT so that the verse no longer reads that we are mentally diseased. That too has hit the dust.
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  Interesting that the other cult-cousins are going thru nearly identical hemmoraging of members.....

  by WingCommander in

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  i still read on reddit.

  (though no longer post) occasionally, i'll venture over to the ex-seventh day adventist (sda) sub and catch up a bit.

  it's been a long time.

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  BluesBrother

  JWs reported an average 8.6 million publishers in 2023 which was a small increase on the year before… That is hardly a haemorrhaging of members , despite what we would like to happen
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  Russia: Further Jail Term For Answering Fellow Prisoners’ Questions About Faith

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  https://www.eurasiareview.com/01072024-russia-further-jail-term-for-answering-fellow-prisoners-questions-about-faith/.

  july 1, 2024. by f18news.

  by victoria arnold.

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  BluesBrother

  The fact that we disagree with these people does not make their treatment by Russia ok.

  Anything else that Russia did would be derived as Autocratic evil. The treatment they receive is just plain wrong , and the rest of the Western world can see that