Thanks for the useful link, Simon.
It does seem that outside of China the rate of fatalities is pretty low, but that does not stop people worrying . In the Uk the media is full of it ...
Stay safe people
BluesBrother
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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Today’s Watchtower Study (December ‘19 issue
by BluesBrother in“parents train your children to love jehovah “.
the title says it all really, but par 6 has this piece of advice.. “jesus likened our time to “the days of noah,” and there is no doubt that we are living in “critical times hard to deal with.” (matt.
24:37; 2 tim.
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BluesBrother
“Parents Train Your Children To Love Jehovah “
The title says it all really, but par 6 has this piece of advice.
“Jesus likened our time to “the days of Noah,” and there is no doubt that we are living in “critical times hard to deal with.” (Matt. 24:37; 2 Tim. 3:1) With that reality in mind, some couples have concluded that they would like to postpone having children so that they can devote more time to sharing in the Christian ministry.“
That may sound a little odd , given that the main field for growth and baptism in the Western world is children growing up..... but still.
Now if one truly believes that “ the cities are [about to] crash in ruin” that may sound reasonable..... Who wants to be pregnant in Idlib today? But is that really the case?
Older ones may remember similar comments in the past when parenthood and even marriage was discouraged in the printed material. For example the book “Children “ . Oddly this was written as a dialogue between two single people in the WTS , John and Eunice and it concludes on this note...
”Our hope is that within a few years our marriage may be consummated and, by the Lord's grace, we shall have sweet children that will be an honor to the Lord. We can well defer our marriage until lasting peace comes to the earth. Now we must add nothing to our burdens, but be free and equipped to serve the Lord”
When I add that this was published in 1941 things gain a perspective.
79 years have passed, enough time to have brought up children and seen grandchildren even great grandchildren! .... and still this world system is with us.
Clearly the WTS is no guide in such fundamental lifestyle decisions, or the understanding of the scriptures.
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Words, phrases ,that do not appear in the Christian Greek Scriptures /New Testament that Jehovah`s Witnesses use.
by smiddy3 inwhere does one begin ?.
jehovah`s witnesses pride themselves as being a bible based religion ,that their beliefs and practices are all bible based ?.
words & phrases jehovah`s witnesses use or have used that are not in the bible.. organization.
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BluesBrother
Interesting post.....full time student .
In the spirit of the o/p :
"Teaching toolbox"
Theocratic career
"First ressurection"
"Second ressurection"
And from FTS's post "undeserveved kindness" . Does that substitute for "grace"?
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Prog rock
by Fadeaway1962 ingoing to see this year .
nick mason's saucerful of secrets.. steve hackett seconds out.
jethro tull the prog years (last time saw them live broadsword tour ).
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BluesBrother
I saw Jethro Tull back in the day..., perhaps late 60's early 70s...good stuff !
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JWD a Dysfunctional Place?
by Victor_E inwith the recent blood baths we have seen in this forum it got me wondering of how you can objectively understand it and more importantly not let it affect you if you so choose.
what i write is not meant to be taken as gospel truth since there is no gospel truth nor is it my intention to get on my soap box since i left it when i walked out of the kingdom hall.
most of what i have to say is subjective based on personal experience and i feel no need or desire to debate anyone about anything i write.
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BluesBrother
You think this is dysfunctional? You should have been here in the past.....
This is a quiet time compared.
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Baptized pre 25 years old
by Fadeaway1962 insaw this on the bbc and thought you should see it:is 25 the new cut-off point for adulthood?
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24173194.
i was baptized in my early 20s so now realize was too young mentally to understand the full impact of that decision and the long term impact on my life.. the org should stop putting pressure on young ones to get baptized..
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BluesBrother
Studies such as this could have a profound effect on the way in which society treats young people. It is saying that our brains are not fully developed until we are 25- 30.
So should we allow younger ones to marry? Drive on the roads ? Send them to war? What about the call, by some, to lower the voting age to 16?
This is exactly what have other septuagerians say about youth culture and the fondness of society to favour youth.
NB .. to follow the o/p point.... I cannot see the WTS changing their attitude toward youth baptism. They need all the numbers they can get and have no regard for the ones who regret it later.
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Public Talk Outlines!
by Atlantis incurrent public talk outlines.
blank page between each talk.. .
https://docdro.id/w209l0s.
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BluesBrother
Browsing through it is evident that, whatever the theme, they all follow the same pattern.
A few minutes setting out the subject, a few more applying that subject to life today ...then the body of it telling the audience what they have to do. Whatever the theme is the talk is always saying pray hard, keep busy, follow directions, be good and gain life in paradise....
You could mix and match and nobody would notice.
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May 2020 Watchtower They Admit, they don't know
by Listener inthey'll write pages and pages of stuff and yet they don't have any idea.. here's a paragraph from their latest speculations on future events, bolding is mine.. a prophecy recorded by ezekiel gives some insight into what may happen during the last days of the king of the north and the king of the south.
if we view the prophecies of ezekiel 38:10-23; daniel 2:43-45; 11:44–12:1; and revelation 16:13-16, 21 as speaking about the same time period and events, it appears that we can expect the following developments.. that's an awful lot of assumptions to make.
what they've done is picked out various scriptures from different parts of the bible and now state that they may or may not be talking about the same events.
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BluesBrother
The time was when I could tell you all about how the activities of Elijah and Elisha prefigured in prophetic pattern the activities of the anointed J W’s at different periods in their history. We spent weeks on end studying how the work of Jeremiah and assistant Baruch also prefigured the “ministry” of twentieth century....
What a waste of time that was! .....only to be told by the same book publishers in recent times that it was all B/S. ....if I hadn’t worked that out for myself. 🤔
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May WT study edition: full of king of North and South / Rusia
by Gorbatchov injw.org is on collision course with russia.
the may wt study edition is full of prophesy related to the time of the end and what we have read so much in isaiah and jeremia bookstudy publications.. they found their enemy again.
jw.org needs enemy's to exist.
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BluesBrother
Plenty of mileage in this issue for debate. One fundamental point is .... What is this Anglo American World Power ? Do you see it in the news? Do the two nations act together as one?
There may have been a duality during World Wars One and Two, but since then I cannot see it. A few points off the top of my head :
They did unite militarily to invade Iraq, although a lot of Brits were against the action.
They are both in NATO and they do have a “special relationship “ , but this does not stop disagreements
They cannot agree on the deportation of wanted suspects of crimes
There is not a special trade agreement in place , although this has been suggested, post Brexit.
Most citizens of Both Britain and the USA would be annoyed at the suggestion that they were merely a part of the other’s world power.
I have not seen any references to the existence of such a thing apart from the WTS. I contend that it does not exist and has not existed since at least 1945 .....
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I found an old pamphlet in one of my JW books. About the Hoxsey cure
by JimmyYoung ini found a pamphlet in one of my old bound vol.
a 1969 awake, that had a pamphlet from a senator who gave a speech on the hoxsey cure.
i know of several jws who went to mexico and got this treatment.
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BluesBrother
"I know so many who would go to the BS chiropractor. This quackery does not only mean cracking bones it gets into Kinesiology which is crazy ass BS. Acupuncture which I always found funny because its a Chinese spiritual load of crap. I went with several JWs in the 70s to a chiropractor who would prescribe drinking a quart of salt water to crap your guts out and do enemas. It was supposed to detoxify"
I once knew a "sister" who was a qualified kinesiology practitioner . The Wt published an article saying that it was dubious and maybe demonic. Overnight her client base among the dubs plummeted. She rebuilt her business though. Her elders never called her out.
Personally I have had acupuncture. It did nothing for me but what I had was not "spiritual". Wife and I regulayly have chiropractic treatment, nothing wrong in bone adjustment. That has done us good.
There are loads of people spending shedloads of money on health foods and off-book treatments ,not just dubs . Certainly, in the past at least, they were susceptible to it due to a miss trust of mainstream medicine ,sparked by the blood issue.