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  Without Sarcasm, How would a witness respond to this?

  by Kristofer in

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  2. beliefs

  i plan on posing this question the next time my dub friends knock on my door..

  what is the good news, the gospel you preach?

  as a witness, what are the responses i can expect?

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  geevee

  So, Moggylover, Christ IS the goodnews of the kingdom?
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  need data

  by mathead in

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  2. scandals

  i am currently doing a mathematical analysis on the remnant population.

  (the number of partakers left).

  i need the number of remnant for the last 15 years, preferably from the "year book" and the average age of the remnant in 2006. my initial work shows the population figures are tampered with.. i think i can pinpoint what the wts is doing here and how they come up with the figures they do.. thanks for any help here

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  But as jwfacts points out, there are some that they say are insane, over emotional, unclear as to their calling, BUT they still get counted in the overall figure come memorial night.
  The little card that the secretary gets doesn't have a direction as to who to count or not to count, simply asks for the number of partakers.
  Rom 8:14 tells clearly who partake: "All who are led by God's spirit, these are God's sons". Don't most JW's feel that they are being led by God's spirit?
  Also, for those of us who walk away from the BS, we still feel like we are led too?
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  We celebrate our 20th Wedding Anniversary this week.

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  like most of you we never did the birthday or christmas thing and so over the years anniversary celebrations were grabbed as a real chance to wrap presents, get festive and party.

  this habit has carried on and there's a small mountain of shiny gifts all waiting to be torn open on april 5th.

  okay, the kids are bit older now (18, 16 & 12) but we all still make a fuss of this one day.. we'll be going out for a slap up meal tomorrow night, just the 5 of us at our favourite curry house.

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  Congrats man....we clocked up out 20th Anniversary nearly a month ago, and it's nearly a year since we stopped attending too.
  We enjoy the free time, to "spend" as we wish. All the best to you and your wife.
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  I found this VERY offensive. What about you?

  by Gill in

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  2. friends

  watchtower, may 15th 2006.

  (back page).

  the value of 'a weaker vessel'.

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  What the article is "really" saying is that the writer aint gettin any and he is skewering his wife with a WT statement. He can then go back home and highlight an interesting article he read in the latest WT [doesn't tell her he wrote it] and says "see what the faithful slave is telling us?" and she has to roll over!!
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  Ridiculous New System Ideas

  by sass_my_frass in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... that i've noticed, generated by wbts, include that:.

  - everybody's living room has a view to the distant snow-capped mountains, uninhibited by the neighbour's ugly tudor that he knocked together at least forty five millennia ago and wouldn't you think he'd have painted the gables by now?.

  - they all visit their friends walking over the unfenced meadows carrying baskets of fruit.

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  Actually, I wonder why Lions eat grass, when their digestive tract is set up to be a carnivor? They have 10 times as much hydrochloric acid as a human, and very short small and large intestines to speed up the transit time. Did god change them after the flood? and is he gonna change em back after the big A?
  I loved the book "the day of the triffids". Sought of reminded me what life would be like after the big A. Not that I have a fetish for blind women! But the soughting through supermarkets and shops and shopping malls and peoples houses seemed like a great idea, finding all the good stuff, handing in to the temple of elder princes and of course giving all the gold and diamonds to the princesses.....[sorry getting off topic, I'll go now]
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  Does the Memorial™ generate BIG $ for the WTS?

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd never before thought of this angle for the memorial.

  it makes sense though: they get people who have become inactive making an extra effort to show up and maybe donating some "guilt money" to make up for having missed a few months' worth of meetings.

  they invite worldly people who perhaps take it for granted that when you go to "church" you drop something in the collection plate, and just automatically drop an offering in the contribution box.

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  Good point scully.
  In all the time I went, i never noticed how many people went near the box. Guilt payments greatly accepted [not greatly appreciated].
  Yep, take extra care to count the partakers, and all the attendees, but not too many would count the money, but why wouldn't there be a little extra in the www on that night.
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  What are the "legal loophole" ?

  by chasson in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in http://www.silentlambs.org/berryarticle.htm .

  silentlambs said: .

  " in this case the avoidance of recognizing that the elders due to mind control forced sara into silence caused the judges to rule in dismissing the case.

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  So the question begs to be asked: Does the Watchtower Society and The Congreagations [Elders especially] care for the children? Do they really abhor child abuse as the thrust down the throats of many blind follwers?
  They say they do, but when it comes down to the line they deny their duty of care.
  Hiding behind legal eagles. These Judges do not know the extent of the control that each member bestows upon elders and how that control is exercised, by elders and the gb [notice lower case] unless you have lived in that society, you can not understand the awe and respect for man's opinions that must be shown.
  How can GOD let this injustice continue? I have read all the victim stories on silentlambs, and it always leaves me dumb struck.
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  Another LIE Stated in the Watchtower....with proof!

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the society has always been cleaver enough with wording to skate around many things.

  they use gramatical trickery which makes for many ' written skapegoats' they've used to protect ther validity as jehovahs mouthpiece.. i found a quote by them when researching for something on another thread and thought it was interesting.. below is an article in a 1993 awake!

  march 22, pages 3-4.

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  Deputy Dog wrote: "However, Jehovah did not let the people of Christendom, as led by the clergy, go without being warned that the League was a counterfeit substitute for the real kingdom of God. He had a "prophet" to warn them. This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. They are still proclaiming a warning, and have been joined and assisted in their commissioned work by hundreds of thousands of persons who have listened to their message with belief."
  
  Question related to this WT quote by DD.
  Is the rank and File JW not a christian? to enable them to be called "Jehovah's Christain Witnesses", by they are rather plain garden variety "Jehovah's Witnesses"?
  
  Probably read it a thousand times, never seen it!!
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  My Epiphany

  by geevee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry, i hope this doesn't sound full of sh#t, but i just had this thought rush.

  the life of joseph [as in the bible, not rutherford].

  he said things that his family didn't understand and didn't like.

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  Thank you all for your kind comments. I certainly do hope to keep moving on with life, but at the same time would like to one day be heard by family and friends as a friend and not an enemy. There are not many JW's, family or friends that are prepared to stay in touch [as we all experience] but for those that do, both my wife and I try to be as normal as possible. Letting them see that we are not stressed or stuggling and that as a family we are remaining together [children NOT off the rails]. This in itself confuses the hell out of most.
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  CO visit: God is in 5th dimension

  by DannyBloem in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had the special exiting visit of the co this week, a real spiritual feast!

  we are so happy and blessed!.

  he told us in his talk about were is god residence that god's residence is in the extra phsical dimension, and this is the place he and all spirit creatures lives.

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  They have been watching too much Stargate SG1. Working hand in hand with Samantha Carter.