Hi all. Just receieved this this morning. Initially I was seething. But now I think that the best reply is NO reply. What do you all think? I know this is another example of head in the sand and no respect for someone elses opinion. Many of you have dealt with this before. Names have been changed for obvious reasons, but the body of the email is how it was sent.
Thanks.
hi geevee,
work is all good, and it does keep me fairly busy. Junior is good and is settling in well. lots of young children to play with.
without being rude however i am having a hard time with how this is going. i know that you have left the truth, i get pretty upset when i think about the boys not being encouraged to develop a relationship with Jehovah God. to take away from them the chance to live forever i just don't get it.
i would love for nothing else than to keep in touch with you and the family, and it will always remain my prayer that you as a family decide to give yourselves the chance for life again. and if you do then i offer all the help and support that i can. until then though it seems that what we have in common is reduced alot. how can i talk to you about what is the most important thing in life when you do not share the same faith bacause you have walked away from it.
if you wish to try to explain what and why then that is up to you. hopefully you will soon see that you have isolated yourself from alot of the things that make life purposeful and start again. i mean no malace in this and it breaks my heart to have to send a message like this to someone that i have always enjoyed a good relationship with, but it needs to be said that without a relationship with Jehovah to bind it all together then how long can it go on. i mean what happens when armaggeddon starts up and you are not in the kingdom.
what do i tell deceased brother and deceased mother if i get through and all your family does not.
then again this might just sound stupid to you.
geevee
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My own Brother writes.....
by geevee injust receieved this this morning.
initially i was seething.
but now i think that the best reply is no reply.
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Elders School Part 5: Here's how you've been screwing up...
by sir82 intalk # 16: meetings that incite to love and fine works brother local elder .
synopsis: boring rehash of the od chapter on meetings.
elders should set the example in not missing meetings.
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Hi Sirs82 and all other readers.
I have a question regarding this quotation: "In all cases of child abuse allegations, ALWAYS call the Legal Department, whether or not the accused denies the allegations."
Q: In the ks91 "page 143" The instructions given were that when an Elder heard an accusation of child abuse, he should instruct the accuser/victim/family not to talk to anyone else about the matter until he gets back to them and the he should contact the Legal Dept of the society FIRST before talking to ANYONE else. SO is this still their procedure? Seems like to quote from the school has the elder confronting the accused before contacting the Society?
Has the instructions that elders hand write on page 143 changed? And [sorry] has the ks been updated or are there new references that you had to write in?
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Esther was not exemplary
by rebel8 ini watched a documentary on the discovery channel about esther's life.
i was reminded that--despite how many times i was told as a jw girl that esther was a role model--here are the things she did:had sex with the king before she was even engaged to marry him.
(according to the documentary--i don't remember that part)spent much of her time doing beauty regimens.married an unbeliever.participated in politics.concealed her ethnic background and religious beliefs.purposely got her husband and his friends drunk.only stood up for her fellow believers after being begged to by her dad and even then did so by a serious of manipulations.. if there were chat rooms back then, esther probably would have visited them too.
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Sounds like she was normal.....
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Theocratic Ministry School Instructions for 2006
by TheListener infrom the october 2006 km [i put .... where i left out some text]:
during 2006 the following will be the arrangements for conducting the theocratic ministry school.
source material: new world translation of the holy scriptures (bi12), the watchtower (w), benefit from theocratic ministry school education (be), "all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial" (1990 edition) (si), and reasoning from the scriptures (1989 edition) (rs).
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Interesting post. Haven't been for nearly 6 months and already forgot some stuff.....
tijkmo...you mentioned most elders would not want counsel, this is very true, MS's also take a dim view of it once they have been allowed into the "inner sanctum" of the "teaching assignments".
Soledad.....the old addage applies, if you tell someone something often enough, it becomes "truth" to them. That is why they keep using the same books over and over. One of my last talks as an elder was from the si book on bible chronology, I got my material straight out of Carl Olaf Jonnson's Gentile Times Revisited!! I thought it was great, and no body questioned it or disagreed with anything that I said about "relative chronology" of the bible.
Blondie... I was the TMSO for a fair while, then when I went up the ladder a bit, I got made the auxiliary counselor, [as an experienced speaker] I found that most elders and ms's wouldn't take it seriously at all. They would stay out of my way and when it came time for counsel, most weren't interested in what i had to say.
So what a dud arrangement. Designed to make people NOT think. Why prepare a comment for the highlights, you only have 30 seconds to say something. When it comes time for preparing for these talks, the TMSO has already given you a slip with the necessary Oral Review question that you need to cover, so dont come up with anything too interesting or that someone might benefit from, just follow the "faithful slave" [driver] and you'll do fine. -
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Why some people leave and live and then it hits them
by Lady Lee ini've read a few posts lately where the people got out of the jws and went off to live their lives.
i went to college almost immediately.
it was hard and sometimes i would think about it and maybe going back.
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GoingGoingGone......Many who have left feel the way you do. It all depends on why you are there and why you have left. The sad part is that while all your "friends" say they miss you, and you do miss them, that whole friendship is very conditional, as you have well figured out. They will be your friend so long as you attend all the meetings and the rest of it. Sounds healthy doesn't it. How does your husband feel about the way you see things?
That is the hard part.
My wife and I are waking up at he same time, although her and the children have disliked it a lot longer than me. I get cross about the people that we know who say they miss us, yet they know where we live, our phone number hasn't changed and yet they dont call. Yet they care?
We have had two elders call in on different occasions individually, not one of them is game to ask or challenge us on anything. Talk about work, weather any thing but why we aren't going anymore.
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New Members on Governing Body
by geevee inhi guys, i have been awol, but have seen some pictures put together of the "complete" governing body with 2 new members.
these guys are aged 50 and 53. is this correct and has this topic already been discussed?
50 and 53 sounds kinda young doesn't it?
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sorry...awol.....absent with-out leave...
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New Members on Governing Body
by geevee inhi guys, i have been awol, but have seen some pictures put together of the "complete" governing body with 2 new members.
these guys are aged 50 and 53. is this correct and has this topic already been discussed?
50 and 53 sounds kinda young doesn't it?
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I am 45, and neealry old enough to be on the GB....And you Ozzie are a definite shoe in for the next Aussie representative!!!...should've started drinking the wine at the memorial and not finishing the bottle at home later!! As for the dry biscuits...they always needed some cheese or dip!! How does the average JW feel about these changes? Has anyone heard anything from anyone still attending?
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New Members on Governing Body
by geevee inhi guys, i have been awol, but have seen some pictures put together of the "complete" governing body with 2 new members.
these guys are aged 50 and 53. is this correct and has this topic already been discussed?
50 and 53 sounds kinda young doesn't it?
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Hi and thanks Neo for the lead on the thread, am devouring the info as i type!! Isn't this really a nail in the theology?
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New Members on Governing Body
by geevee inhi guys, i have been awol, but have seen some pictures put together of the "complete" governing body with 2 new members.
these guys are aged 50 and 53. is this correct and has this topic already been discussed?
50 and 53 sounds kinda young doesn't it?
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Hi ozzie and all, I have just been working working working, now that i have an extra day and a half at least in my life, we have been trying to make the most of it. Haven't been reading much on JWD or anything else. Getting through a few family events and feeling slightly outcast...ish. They all seem to know we aren't attending anymore, but no one wants to address it!!!!!
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New Members on Governing Body
by geevee inhi guys, i have been awol, but have seen some pictures put together of the "complete" governing body with 2 new members.
these guys are aged 50 and 53. is this correct and has this topic already been discussed?
50 and 53 sounds kinda young doesn't it?
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Hi Guys, I have been awol, but have seen some pictures put together of the "complete" Governing body with 2 new members. These guys are aged 50 and 53. Is this correct and has this topic already been discussed? 50 and 53 sounds kinda young doesn't it? As I said, I have been awol and also haven't been to a meeting for nearly 5 months!!!! No on has tried to keep me up to date with the latest magazines or any thing....