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toladest
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Brothers Meet Again After 26 Years!
by toladest indan f's horrible abuse separated a family.
but it is time for the healing to begin.
dan married lynne in the early 70's and with her came 2 stepchildren, dawn & darrin.
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Brothers Meet Again After 26 Years!
by toladest indan f's horrible abuse separated a family.
but it is time for the healing to begin.
dan married lynne in the early 70's and with her came 2 stepchildren, dawn & darrin.
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Dan F's horrible abuse separated a family. But it is time for the healing to begin. Dan married Lynne in the early 70's and with her came 2 stepchildren, Dawn & Darrin. Dan's son Scott was 6 years old at the time. Soon thereafter Danielle was born into the family, tying the children together. While Dawn was being sexually abused, Scott and Darrin were being physically abused. The physical abuse came at the hands of both parents and Scott and Darrin faced constant abuse. Life was very hard for all the children. They faced horrors no child should face, but they went through it together. Darrin's father was also abusive so he moved back and forth between families trying to figure out which was the better of the two households. Scott was reunited with his mother when he was 12 but it had been so long since he had seen her (7 years) that he felt lost and alone in a house with a mother he did not know and a new stepfather that was emotionally abusive. As horrible as it was, at least he new what to expect when he was with his dad. So he went back. When Scott was 13 and Darrin was 15 Darin decided to move back to California with his father. By the time Darrin did end up coming back to live with his mom, Scott had gone to live with his mom again. They did not see each other again for 26 years.
Scott and Dawn got to see each other again briefly in 1990. It was awkward though because Dawn was not sure what to make of Scott because he was the adult son of her abuser and Scott did not understand that she was abused and had always felt envious of the attention & "affection" his father showed to Dawn. It was not until a couple years later that Dawn and Scott spoke heart to heart on the phone and it all came out. Scott supported his stepsister and started to piece together the things he witnessed as a kid. Now as an adult looking back it was clear that his dad was not showing affection in the normal sense of the word. Scott kept phone contact and was able to see Dawn a couple times after that. There was no contact with Darrin through the years until I (Scott's wife) met his girlfriend on the Internet. Scott and Darrin spoke once but it was hard. There was a lot of history there and neither of them is good on the phone.
Last month Scott decided it was time to gather the family together and see some old friends. It was time for healing to begin. We called some old friends (more like family) that Scott, Dawn, & Darrin had grown up with and arranged to travel to their house to have a reunion. We just returned home and I wanted to share the experience.
When we arrived Scott & Darrin didn't even recognize each other, as they were teens the last time they saw each other and are 38 & 40 years old now. Right away they decided to take a drive around town and see some of the old houses they lived in. Vicki and I tagged along. As they pulled up to each house the reminisced about some of the things they remembered. They were both welling up with tears. Scott remembered that Darrin, being Dan's stepson always seemed to get the worst of the abuse. Darrin talked about how they would at times escape up into the hills to avoid Dan. After we arrived back at our friend's house and Vickie and I got out of the car the guys stayed in and talked for nearly an hour. It ended with red swollen eyes and a hug. Scott has not discussed the conversation with me other than to say that it was a good thing. This was on Friday. We only had one more day to spend together as we had to be on the road to get home early Sunday morning.
On Saturday we had breakfast together and then spent the day hanging out and talking. Our friends had arranged that a few people come over and we had a BBQ. Scott and Darrin did not seem to get in a lot of "talk time" Saturday, but when it came time to say our goodbyes it was apparent that neither of them wanted to say it. They ended with a long hug and more tears.
Both Darrin and Scott have been terribly affected by what Dan did to them. Scott has also carried guilt for what his father has done to others. I have tried to tell him he can't take that on but it is hard for him. Scott has talked to me about his experiences, but I wasn't there. I could not possibly know what he went through. Darrin and Scott endured together and can really relate. I believe there is a lot more to be said between them and they have a long way to go, but they are on the right track. Now that they have reunited we have determined that we will keep in touch and visit as often as possible. They have been through a lot together and it is a shame that Dan was able to cause a separation between them, but it is up to them to bridge that gap and start the healing and it seems they are finally ready to do that.
It is amazing the affect that abuse has on people. You can sit back and let it destroy you or you can pick up the pieces and try to move on. It is not an easy thing to do, but it can be done.
Thankfully, Scott broke the cycle of abuse and we have been able to raise healthy, happy children. We have not been perfect, but we have not EVER been abusive to our children. They don't know their grandfather or step grandmother and NEVER will. That kind of evil has no place in their lives.
Hopefully, this reunion will help to resolve some personal demons in the lives and minds of both Scott and Darrin.
What Dan has done can't keep them apart any longer
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toladest
EQ = 66
SQ= 38
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Can someone explain Ezekiel 4:12-17. Did God approve of eating Human feces?
by booker-t inhelp me posters out there.
my atheist cousin insist that the bible is full of contradictions, and lies and he uses ezekiel 4:12-17 to try and prove that jehovah is just as sick and demented as satan the devil.
he showed me these scriptures where jehovah told ezekiel to bake cake using human feces but ezekiel refused to do it.
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Actually the scripture says to cook the bread over human excrement as fuel. It does not say to put it in the bread.
But I agree that is sick and there are a lot more sick and disgusting things in the bible.
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Who left the JW's after getting on the internet?
by toladest invitta's thread above got me wondering.
how many here still believed the "witnesses" to have the truth until they came to sites like this?
how many actually came here to defend the jw's and ended up leaving?
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I have a question for those who said it was the WTS stance on child abuse policies that caused them doubts. If it wasn't the internet that you learned about it.........where did you learn it from?
Gumby Gumby, I was in the center of the child abuse issue. I was a VERY FAITHFUL JW until I watched as the Elders and the WTS stood behind and supported my father-in-law molester as they shunned his victims and treated them like liars. I saw years of this up to his conviction. At that point I pushed the issue with the elders in my hall that they labeled me an apostate. At that point I had not told others in the congergation and I had NEVER read any "apostate" material, EVER! I was an apostate simply for questioning the elders on the way they were handling (or not handling) the child abuse issue.That is when I got on the internet to find out what an apostate really was.
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Flock book on Ebay. $175 start $290 "Buy Now"
by Elsewhere inhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=6958602668
up for auction is a hardbound edition of the "kingdom ministry school textbook" published by the watchtower bible and tract society, jehovah's witnesses, for use by elders only.
because this was used in the course of a school, it has much underlining and many marginal notations.
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Sold! Wow that was fast! Wonder who the lucky buyer was?
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Personality Wise----Are You THAT Much Different Since Leaving The "Truth"?
by minimus ini believe that most people are what they are----whether they were jws or are exes.
for example, if you were a basically happy go lucky person in the hall, you probably have that same nature now.
conversely, if you were accused of always complaining and being miserable then, you probably still bitch and moan now.
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I am VERY different. I was a very quiet and shy person. I had VERY low self esteem and tended to get depressed very easily as a JW. I NEVER spoke my mind and always tried to "keep the peace".
Now, I am not shy at all and I have a very good self-esteem. ( a lot due to pursing more education and getting a job) I speak my mind when I feel I need to and am happy most of the time. Life is good and I have a much better outlook. I also don't trust everything I hear and question everthing.
I do have some things that have not changed. I have always been a very empathetic person and always tried to give people the "benefit of the doubt", something my mother always taught me. My heart has not really changed, just changed directions.
Laurie
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Who left the JW's after getting on the internet?
by toladest invitta's thread above got me wondering.
how many here still believed the "witnesses" to have the truth until they came to sites like this?
how many actually came here to defend the jw's and ended up leaving?
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Vitta's thread above got me wondering. How many here still believed the "witnesses" to have the truth until they came to sites like this? How many actually came here to defend the JW's and ended up leaving?
In my case, I knew the WTS was wrong in the way they handled child abuse and it was causing some other doubts to surface, but I really came to the net because they called me an apostate and I wanted to see if other apostates were just like me or if they were the monsters the WTS told me they were my whole life. My eyes were opened wide by the net. If it were not for that I would have probably gone on thinking they had the truth in most areas.
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Nope, but lived in Yerington, NV some years back and will actually be traveling there next week for a visit.
I am meeting up with a bunch of x-jws that left the cult after a major scandel there.
Laurie
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Barb Anderson's Court Hearing Update
by AndersonsInfo ingreetings from tennessee.
thank you for your inquiries regarding the barbara anderson vs. watchtower tennessee appellate court hearing, which took place on thursday, april 14, 2005. accompanied by steve and joy imhof, from panama city beach, florida, and our attorney, jerre hood, from winchester, tennessee, we drove to nashville to attend the 1:00 p.m. scheduled appellate hearing.
this hearing was requested last year by defendants in the case, and they are: the numerous corporations of watchtower bible and tract society; watchtower spokespersons, j. r. brown, and david semonian, and certain elders of the manchester, tn congregation of jws.
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Gerard, you obviously are not aware of all that Barb and Joe have done. They were once members of the Bethel family. Barb did research regarding child abuse cases and tried to get people in higher position to make changes. No one listened! Later Barb was DFed and shunned by some of her own family. When Joe stepped down as an elder because of the lies he saw the WTS tell he was also DFed. They have gone through SO MUCH! Barb was featured on Dateline NBC and had recorded that show LONG before she was DFed. What a brave step to take after spending her life as a JW, after bring her son up as a JW, and have a JW elder husband.
Barb, Thanks SO much for standing up for me and all the other victims of child sexual abuse! You don't know the impact you have had on my life! I met you only once in person in NY and once on the phone, but I love you more than you will ever know!
Laurie Fitzwater