Posts by TooOpinionated

rebel8-I agree with you-it is part of the new policies. I just can't believe it took them this long to do something, since I made no secret of my feelings.

weigal-I hope it doesn't happen to you, but I like your strength if it does!

jt stumbler-that option had crossed our minds, too. I honestly feel violently ill at the thought of darkening the doors of a Kingdom Hall, though.

BrendaCloutier-Yes, that is exactly what I'm going to do. And in the end, I now realize it doesn't matter if they think I'm being vindictive or not.

EvilForce and 144001-LOL You two crack me up!

tyler m-Methinks you give good advice!

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The hurt will never stop

by Jez in

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my little sister (not a jw) forwarded me some pictures of my brothers 2 kids (jw and fanatically shuns me).

i would not have recognized them on the street.

just when you think you can't hurt anymore...something is always thrown in your face.

TooOpinionated

(((Jez)))

Big hugs to you. The pain you are going through is unfathomable, and so, so senseless.

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Have you ever tried explaining judicial committee to a non-witness?

by TooOpinionated in

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i have, and i honestly don't seem to be getting the repercussions across.

my parents and siblings are not witnesses, so when i told them about the jc letter arriving, they just shrug their shoulders and say "so what?

have you ever had that experience?

I have, and I honestly don't seem to be getting the repercussions across. My parents and siblings are not witnesses, so when I told them about the JC letter arriving, they just shrug their shoulders and say "so what?"

Have you ever had that experience?

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i"ll be the first in KH"...is no longer a JW" tonight

by mad max in

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well, everyone, tonight is the night when they are going to test out the new thought in the new om book.

"brothers just want to make this announcement ....... is no loner a jw".

buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz then silent.. gosssssssssssssssip afterwards.. well that's love for you, 8 years and not one phone call.

TooOpinionated

Sorry to hear this, mad max. I hope all goes well with you.

I believe my husband and I will be the first announced under the new procedure probably this coming Sunday-Thursday at the latest.

Teresa

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Our invitation to our JC came today!!

by TooOpinionated in

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we've been expecting it since the memorial, and i was hoping it would come by registered mail so .

i could refuse it, but noooooo, it comes in a normal first class envelope.

actually, i thought it .

TooOpinionated

Well, an update. We had this part ready to go

I'm sending your letter to our lawyer for legal counsel. We will need to arrange a meeting time with you so our lawyer can also attend. Please know that we will not allow our names to be slandered in any way that causes others to treat us differently, and will take legal action if that happens.

Like my husband said, knowing me as well as the elders do, it was a definite promise. There is no other woman in the congregation that would stand up to them but me, and they know I mean business.

But....

I am VERY serious about writing letters, giving talks to small groups, talking to priests and ministers, etc, about the witnesses, and I do not want them to think I am being vindictive. Plus, I will not give up my power to them any longer. I think they are a joke, so they were treated like a joke. We have nothing to lose anymore, and so it was time to take some wind out of their sails. I can't wait to see the pompous elder's face when he reads Swan's response!

"Thank you for the invitation but we cannot possibly attend due to a conflicting engagement. Unfortunately your meeting coincides with our daughter's birthday party, and of course, as any good parent knows, that must take precedence. Please accept our cordial invitation to you to stop by before or after your meeting for cake and ice cream. We would love to have you join us for the festivities."

We both signed it, and popped it in the mail this morning.

They ironic thing is that the elders knew about my sticker when we recieved a memorial invititation, as an elder came to our door and studied it. It's taken them this long to do anything. My husband has not gone (except for Memorial 2 yrs ago) to a meeting in over 3 years, myself for 2 years. We must be part of their new policy. But the absolute deciding factor in sending this instead of a more hard core letter is that it will make NO difference in the way we have been treated. I have been shunned for a few years now (nobody ever told me if there was an annoucement, but it was quite obvious behavior). So it was time to thumb our nose at them. We refuse to give up our power to them. It is over.

They still treat my husband like he doesn't have a mind of his own, and this is happening because he is just going along with me. That is why he personally signed this letter, too. Actually, sending this version was his idea!!

It's taken a long time to get to this point, and I still have times where I get angry about the lies they say about us when all I tried to do was point out the 2 witness rule was wrong in child abuse to the elders, and protect the children in our congregation when the "alledged" molester came back to the congregation and was reinstated in less than a year. (Elder's relation-go figure.) And of course horrible crime of speaking against the elders, since I don't hold them as being appointed by God. I used to work with one-I know for a fact this couldn't be true from his behavior.

From here on end we live our lives for ourselves. I don't mean to come off flip about everything, because believe me, we have been dead serious about this whole situation for several years now. I didn't know at one time if my husband would leave the Organization with me and our kids, and before I found this site, I honestly believed that there was something wrong with ME for not being able to be submissive to their "counseling". Every fiber of my being screamed that it was all wrong.

It was a very stressful time that spanned a few years.

This is our way of moving on.

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Our invitation to our JC came today!!

by TooOpinionated in

jw
friends

we've been expecting it since the memorial, and i was hoping it would come by registered mail so .

i could refuse it, but noooooo, it comes in a normal first class envelope.

actually, i thought it .

TooOpinionated

EvilForce and Swan-Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.

JAVA and 144001-I'm copying and pasting as we speak. Question-how can I word things to let them know I know that individual elders can be sued?

BrendaCloutier, Purza, kaykay_mp, IP_SEC (Congratulations!-I just got caught up your thread, sorry.) Sunspot, misspeaches, thank you so much for the warm words. They are greatly appreciated.

I need to get this in the mail right away in the morning so it will be there in time, since they set it up so quickly. Hmmm, could it be they are in a hurry to kick us out?????

Teresa

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Our invitation to our JC came today!!

by TooOpinionated in

jw
friends

we've been expecting it since the memorial, and i was hoping it would come by registered mail so .

i could refuse it, but noooooo, it comes in a normal first class envelope.

actually, i thought it .

TooOpinionated

Thank you for all the well wishes and the congratulatory notes. I did so want to check mate them, though, if only to let them know that I have more information than they realize (the "secret" elders handbook in PDF, for one). I kind of want to shake them up a bit.

I found this gem http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/18983/1.ashx This would really shock them. Not sure about it, though.

As a sidenote, this particular elder is the SAME elder that caused Hadenuf's family so much grief. I've even heard him brag about how he has hidden in ditches at night waiting for lights to be turned off so he can get his so-called "evidence" against a woman for adultery. He had another man with him to comply with their infernal 2 witness rule, but of course they never saw the actual act committed. She was disfellowshipped on the act of turning off a lightswitch! Hmmmm, a regular James Bond wannabee! LOL

144001-Wow, that is indeed a most unique idea! My husband will definitely get a kick out of that when he gets home from work!

Teresa

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Our invitation to our JC came today!!

by TooOpinionated in

jw
friends

we've been expecting it since the memorial, and i was hoping it would come by registered mail so .

i could refuse it, but noooooo, it comes in a normal first class envelope.

actually, i thought it .

TooOpinionated

We've been expecting it since the Memorial, and I was hoping it would come by registered mail so 
I could refuse it, but NOOOOOO, it comes in a normal first class envelope. Actually, I thought it 
was our roofing estimate until I opened it.

We are "invited" to explain our alledged "apostate" sticker on our mailbox. We were feeling so 
frustrated that I got a bumper sticker from Randy Watters and put it on there. It has generated 
ALOT of interest, plus we finally had to put a No Trespassing sign up to stop the Witnesses from 
constantly hounding us.

Anyway, our daughter is having her first birthday celebration (she will be 4) on that day, so I 
guess they will have to hold it without us. We never had any intention of going, anyway.

I had wanted to start writing articles to expose the witnesses and send them to our local papers, 
and now I'm kicking myself for not doing it, because it will probably look vindictive now. However, 
that is something I STILL will be doing, as we don't recognize the elders' authority, and honestly, 
there is a need inside of me to let the world know about the Ray Franzs and Barbara Andersons of 
this world.

I just wanted to let this out, because no matter how well-prepared I was for this, I still started 
shaking when I read the letter, but it wasn't because of fear, anger, or residual love of the congregation. 
It was more like the rush of adrenaline for battle. Finally, the culmination and official end to all 
the years of total B.S.

Thanks for letting me vent. Now I'm off to figure out a fitting letter to the editor!!!!

Teresa

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Know any female jw child molesters?

by avishai in

i was reading an article in "jane" magazine today that talks about women child molesters.

it said up to 40% of molestations may be done by women, it's just that its far more underreported than males.

so, anyone know of any jw women molesters?

TooOpinionated

Yes, in fact, the "alleged" molester in our hall is a female. Of course, the parents of the kids wouldn't press charges, fearing the eternal "bringing reproach on Jehovah", three of her uncles are elders, and her mom an elder's sister. Thus everyone denies she did anything. Sadly, she just had 2 more children of her own. Started a second family with a new husband. Has grandchildren too, thanks to the infernally early JW marriage age, and is actively involved with them. Oh, and before I forget, I was told it was all O.K. because "Jehovah forgave her IF she did anything". (Sigh)