ok. i've just read this in the march 2006 - i reckon its an out and out lie and i challenge anyone to find a school where this is happening.. this is in the young people ask section:.
'how can i say no to sex at school?'.
"every day, kids are talking about sex.
Does this stuff happen? Of course.
Does it happen everywhere, everday? Of course not.
The problem with the WTS articles is that they take specific issues, hot button ones, grab quotes from believers and form an entire article based on this.
They don't look at the issue objectively, their intent is to demonize worldly kids and cause an us versus them attitude in JW youths. I don't believe it's working.
i just read the thread on 'double lifers' and 'still in jws'.. first i just want to say welcome to all you newbies and 'hello' to all you readers who still haven't got up the courage to join jwd and post yet.
we look forward to hearing from you.. i found the above thread very sad.
there are so many young jws especially held captive in the jw religion, by fear of shunning, and so many older ones trapped for the same reason.. all i can say in comfort is 'hold on to your own mind and thoughts now.
When you have doubts about the WTS and don't know where to turn - we are here for you.
Anonymity a concern? Worried that you'll be found out and DF/DA or your family will cut off contact with you?
The you can turn here. We accept each other for what we are - people. Each with a different personality and a different take on things.
What we all have in common is welcoming you new ones to the forum.
Our opinions don't always agree, but we do agree with the right to express them.
Welcome new ones, I hope you find this place as welcoming as I have.
just wondered as im prob about to give up so much, coz i dont think it is the truth but its come as such a shock!.
my family believe it so much, my dad feels he can answer any question i have, and being brought up in it sometimes it scares me.
coz my family believe it so much, .
No.
But, like some others I did for a while. I thought I just didn't get it. I thought I had the problem. News events or weather events would make my mind reel with thoughts of my imminent death. I was losing it. The only way I was able to survive was good friends (both physical and cyber) and studying the issues that I thought made the WTS right.
Funny how that worked for me. When I thought the WTS was right I wasn't willing to follow them because it felt so wrong to my inner compass. Now that I know they're wrong and don't follow their teachings my family thinks I'm the one with the faulty inner compass. Go figure!
i've been wanting to post updates for awhile, but i have been paranoid that my posts would make it too easy to identify me.
right now i don't care, so here's what's happening if it's helpful for anyone else who is trying to fade.. first of all, as of my last update i was still hanging around some of the witnesses socially and it came back to bite me.
after that mess, i pretty much gave up on even trying to pretend i can have much in common with most of the people at the hall.
Atypical,
I understand what you're going through. I faded for several years, in fact I'm technically still in the fade. There are unique pressures, strong feelings and uncomfortable times during the fade process. If you would like to talk PM me.
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i don't read it anymore.. i figure that i know enough of it, without having to go back and read it again.
I read the Bible. I enjoy it.
I read it now with new eyes.
I've taken off the tinted WTS lenses and placed on clear ones.
i really hate this religion.
i feel sorry for all the followers.
when i speak to close witness friends, i try to plant seeds..... but no matter how much they agree on me on certain points.... the society is great and individuals are to blame.. i go to meetings, and wind up playing solitaire on my palm pilot secretly to avoid puking at the info.
Hey DaCheech. I did what you're doing for several years before I made my final fade. What got me through it? The fact that I had a plan. I knew that I deserved to be happy as much as everyone else deserves it.
I'm lucky. So far, even though my family strongly disagrees with my viewpoints (the little they know), they do agree that I am an adult and have the right to live my life the way I see fit. There is no pressure or shunning occurring - yet. That may all change one day, who knows. I don't let their possible actions or reactions dictate my life (well, for the most part). I'm kind, honest, considerate and yes dammit - lovable.
When I started my journey I didn't know where I would end up. I really still don't. But, I knew then and I still know that I only want to be surrounded by people that love me for who I am and not what I believe.
IMHO you need to think about what you want out of life. You have to decide whether living your life the way you want is more important that living your life the way your family wants. There are always consequences so you must decide carefully, but in the end follow your heart. I found that the relationship I had to my family during my fade wasn't real. It was carefully constructed by me but it wasn't real. I wasn't my real self with them and I feel that it hurt the very relationship I was trying to maintain. The only reason I made it through is because I planned in advance. I let little bits of me out at a time (no jokes). I hit resistance, anger, fear and more feelings from my family each time a new part of me was released. This was followed by a time of adjustment and equilization of our relationships and finally acceptance. I'm not sugarcoating this because certain times are so hard they're almost unbearable. But, I know that my relationship with my family is authentic, real and all me. When we don't have outside pressure from others our family works very well. When WTS guilt enters things get messed up for awhile. But, so far things always settle back into "normal" mode.
OK this got a long longer and more personal than I anticipated. I hope it helps.
tijuana, mexico -- mexico has closed the famous cancer clinic mentioned the magazines several time.
my mom went down there this summer and she said everyone there was jws including a d.o.
and his wife it is amazing how many witnesses have been going down there from the area i live.
Does anyone have the magazine references to this clinic? Are we sure it's the same clinic? Are there more than one of these types of clinics in Tijuana?
i have been reading and enjoying the posts here for over 2 years.
i have been a witness for over 30 years.
i am going to the meetings just to keep peace in the family.
Welcome to the board. I love your hotel story. It is typical and many here have been through similar experiences. It isn't easy and you're not alone.
Good luck.
hey everyone,.
just want to thank everyone for responding so positively to my first post (a long rant...and a new beginning).
thought i'd share a little of mys story...well maybe alot of my story!.
Enjoy the forum Joe. It's nice that you found this place. I'm confident that you'll find supportive friendships. I'm sure you have much to offer everyone here and I look forward to your perspective.
There is a saying that a friend told me. I'd like to share it with you:
You're about to step out onto a road of self-discovery. It's a road that can get very lonely. Those who have known you the longest will be the most threatened and upset by your travels. Be strong, be courageous and be true to yourself. As you travel this road you will find others who are searching as well. Befriend them, console them and they will be of a benefit to you. There will be times when you are the only one walking on the road. You will feel the solitude. Take advantage of these times to search within yourself for what you believe, what you feel and how you want the world to know you. Roads like these never end but in time they can become more comfortable.
i am new here, excuse my english.
it seems that some of you are serving or have been serving as elders and have judical committee experience (stillajwexelder for example).
i want to know how i must behave in jc meeting to avoid disfellowshipping.
Good luck Albert. What you're doing takes guts. It may not be the road others would choose but you have to do what you feel is right.
Be honest and sincere. For the elders to truly feel that you're repentant for what you've done you'll have to give up the sisters name. She needs spiritual guidance and adjustment as much as you do - in their opinion.
Remember, the forgiver of sins isn't the congregation or elder body but Jehovah God based on his son's ransom sacrifice. Make sure you sincerely approach him in prayer over the matter and ask his forgiveness.
I would like to add that I wish you would stick around and see much of what is written here has merit.
Again, good luck. I hope you are able to maintain your family relationships through this difficult time.
