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  Mixed Race Couples - WTS literature

  by TheListener in

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  has anyone ever seen a mixed race couple shown in paradise in the wts literature?.

  i haven't.

  i've seen pictures of modern day mixed race couples but never ever in paradise..

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  TheListener

  Has anyone ever seen a mixed race couple shown in paradise in the WTS literature?

  I haven't. I've seen pictures of modern day mixed race couples but never ever in paradise.
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  Missing the meeting... AGAIN

  by 5thGeneration in

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  pretended to be sleeping.. wife and kids got ready and left without me.. wife's gonna be pissed when she gets home.. well at least i have football to watch..

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  Quandry, those are all fine ideas. But, the reality is if his wife wants to go to the meeting she will view those things as him purposely trying to subvert her faith.

  There isn't a way to win in this situation.

  If you go you're miserable and your wife knows it and gets pissed.

  If you don't go you're happy but your wife is miserable and she gets pissed.

  I think one thing you could do is give her a sentence or two that she can memorize to answer those at the KH who ask about you.

  Make it something simple and memorable. Tell her you know it's dificult answering questions about someone else's situation and this simple phrase should help. Perhaps some others on the board can suggest a good short phrase.

  I do not help my wife get the kids ready. If she wants to attend with them she can get them ready. I watch tv or eat breakfast or sleep; depending on how I feel that morning. It used to cause trouble but in the last 6 months things have become fairly routinized.

  Good luck.
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  I couldn't skip a discussion of Sept KM Question Box

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  with comparing what other experts have to say, just as the witnesses did?".

  "well, what have you found wrong with the nwt?".

  ' without comparing and .

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  TheListener

  My God!! Were you listening to a conversation my wife and I had?

  You're so right, they don't actually listen to a thing we say.

  In my opinion they actually listen to just enough to find a plausible (to them at least) error in your statement or reasoning so their justified in ignoring everything else you say on the subject.
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  Will the Book Study ever be dropped from the weekly meetings?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the book study is one of the most useless meetings.

  the same books have been studied 3 or 4 times.the meeting takes only an hour but takes up most of your evening.

  and, it is one of the least attended meetings.. why haven't they combined the watchtower study with just question and answer and then follow with the book study with just question and answer?

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  TheListener

  Oh doubting bro - yee of little faith. bwaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaa

  Just wait and see.....

  (no I'm not a bethel monitor)
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  Sad Sept KM QB part tonight. They have a plan. Sad.

  by oompa in

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  the question does say it is witnesses getting these study groups up.

  one scripture you will not hear during the part is the one scripture jesus himself spoke of small groups getting together, this one:.

  matt 18:20 "for where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.".

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  TheListener

  Sorry to here this Oompa.

  I hope you and your wife can continue to move forward and work things out.

  My wife and I have come to an unspoken agreement. We don't discuss the truth unless I've drunk too much or she has pms. Not bad really, but these two circumstances tend to coincide all too frequently. :)
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  The Effect of Losing Elders

  by metatron in

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  losing elders in the us puts the organization into quite a dilemma.

  they hate large congregations.

  but can't split without enough appointed local 'enforcers'.

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  TheListener

  I know and knew a lot of great elders. You could always tell who they were because they were talking to the friends and looked tired because they do all the work.

  What I miss most?: hanging out and reading the announcement board during the meeting. Oh man I ved being out of my seat and roaming the back of the hall. Sometimes I would go out to the parking lot 'to make sure there is no funny business going on out there'. hehehehehhe - ahhhh the fresh air, I remember it well.
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  The Good, The Bad and The Troll

  by outofthebox in

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  the good.

  thanks everybody for your warm welcome days ago (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/141779/1.ashx).

  we really enjoyed all your comments.

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  TheListener

  Welcome OOTB!!!

  I read your posts wih growing interest.

  I hope your group continues to grow and prosper.

  I would like to add that reading some of your posts sort of freaks me out. The use of the multiple third person narrative is uncomfortable to read. Might I suggest that each member of the group take a number and begin their posts under your joint name with 'this is A' or something of that nature. It's none of my business so don't listen to me.

  Welcome.
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  Will the Book Study ever be dropped from the weekly meetings?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  the book study is one of the most useless meetings.

  the same books have been studied 3 or 4 times.the meeting takes only an hour but takes up most of your evening.

  and, it is one of the least attended meetings.. why haven't they combined the watchtower study with just question and answer and then follow with the book study with just question and answer?

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  TheListener

  Want to add more pressure?

  perform the bookstudy in 30 minutes.

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  two 5 minutes (one by a brother and one sisters) (assigned by the elder to members of the bookstudy group) - no signup for this assignment required, it's not officially the school but a preparation to join the school or better your speaking habits in a smaller more intiimate group.

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  a 5-10 minutes bible reading (by a brother, of course!)

  The talks could be assigned by the BSO and his assistant. The added pressure of having a part may force certain ones to show up when they otherwise would not. It could also be sold as a means to prepare certain ones who are nervous about giving talks at the KH to do so and to prepare everyone for more informal witnessing.

  PLUS, since we're so close to the end the WTS would easily see the rumor spread that this change was due to the persecution that they see 'right around the corner.'

  Just my opinion.
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  Praying at the Door

  by TheListener in

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  2. beliefs

  an interesting side topic arose on another thread about praying with people at the door.

  i did door to door witnesses for decades and never once prayed with someone at the door, and yes, requests were made.. by not praying with worldly ones i was following the instructions from the fds.

  however, i never really understood the wts stance on this.. i would like to hear others thoughts about why praying at the door with someone would be scripturally appropriate or not.. i realize that it may be a loving and compassionate thing to do.

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  There are a lot of new posters here. This is a question I asked a couple years ago but only got one response.

  Any thoughts on witnesses praying at the door?
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  If Your Spouse Told The Elders On U, Is That a Marital or Religious Problem

  by minimus in

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  if a faithful devout jw saw her husband on a board like this or reading "apostate" literature, if she was so disturbed by her husband's actions and the husband justified himself, would you think that if she told the elders because she was truly concerned that her mate was going to leave "the truth" and ultimately not make it into the "new system", --------that this was simply a marital issue-----not a religious one?.

  your opinions please..

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  How can you be truly "One" in marriage when you have to guard your thoughts and ideas even from your spouse? It is impossible unless you go against the very core of dub teaching.

  Cold Creek Swimmer summed it up pretty well.

  I'm in the situation now of trying to decide where my wife's line in the sand is regarding non-dub thoughts and activities.

  I want to be fully open and honest with my thoughts and actions (like posting here) but I'm nervous that something will cross her imaginary line in the sand and she'll rat me out.

  --how would you explain the difference of talking to a therapist vs. the elders regarding the very same information?