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  Did you count the time for your "hour talk"?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi fellow speakers (sorry, brothers only!):.

  my first public talk, given in my early 20s, was actually a twenty-minute part of a symposium talk.

  my pioneer partner friend and i each had twenty minutes and a "servant" had the concluding part.

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  TheListener

  Counted public talk time of 45 minutes. Didn't count preparing time. I did not count time for any other talks or parts.
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  Redhorsewoman from DriveslikeJehu

  by Antioch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi redhorsewoman,.

  i doubt you still log on here but i wanted to try.

  i just wanted to thank you for arguing with me all those years ago on beliefnet.

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  BTT.

  I thought this old thread might be of interest again since I recently found out that another well known apologist on Beliefnet also stopped being a witness. His posting name was "Apologist" and he lead the way for the dub Beliefnet posters.

  http://www.examiner.com/article/former-jehovah-s-witness-talks-about-his-journey-to-biblical-christianity
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  Anyone remember the old Beliefnet Poster - Apologist?

  by TheListener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several years ago on beliefnet there was a jw apologist named "apologist".

  he was very well written and defended the dubs very well.

  he had several debates with auld soul and others on beliefnet which were fun to read.. i recently found out that the poster "apologist" is no longer a witness and does not consider them to have the "truth".

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  Several years ago on Beliefnet there was a JW Apologist named "Apologist". He was very well written and defended the dubs very well. He had several debates with Auld Soul and others on Beliefnet which were fun to read.

  I recently found out that the poster "Apologist" is no longer a witness and does not consider them to have the "truth". Here is a link to the article I read.

  The article gives his real name - Edward Andrews. On Beliefnet "Apologist" put his real name at the bottom of his posts which is why I knew it was the same person.

  http://www.examiner.com/article/former-jehovah-s-witness-talks-about-his-journey-to-biblical-christianity
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  Circuit Overseer wakes up, packs his bags and leaves!

  by Anony Mous in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just heard this about a co i knew back in the day before he was even a co. he must be in his mid-late 40's now, my mother told me the story as she knows the family very well (the entire family has gone 'apostate' including several elders, circuit overseers and missionaries - this was an "example" family, always on the stage etc).. he wasn't 'feeling well' so he took time off from his co duties.

  that week he packed his suitcase, told his wife he can't do it anymore and he's leaving, leaves her the car and the house and went to live in a small apartment, bought a small car and a week later got a decent job.. this was very recent so not everybody within the org has heard yet what happened..

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  I've known of several COs and DOs who have owned their own home. One rented his house to a pioneer couple for a cheap price and another rented his out to a group of young men who pioneered and on the way to being ministerial servants or bethelites. Everyone thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.

  I also knew a CO who had a full pension from a civil servant job before he was a dub.
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  New Article on JW.org about gay people

  by ateograciasadios in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, sometimes i go to jw.org just to laugh a bit about the 'food at the proper time', and i would like to know what people think of this hillarious article 'am i attracted to the same sex.

  does that mean i am gay?'.

  this has to be one of the most remarkable pieces of logic (last paragraph of the article).. the bibles stand is not unreasonable.

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  Based on this article can a JW can be homosexual as long as they don't engage in homosexual activities? Is that really true? I've been out awhile but I don't remember that being the teaching.
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  International Conventions for 2014 - Landover, MD - What is an International Convention?

  by insearchoftruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have been out of touch for a while, i see that there is an 'international' convention this year in landover, md (fed ex field) and there are no english conventions in either richmond or hampton, va. what is an 'international convention', is it merely a consolidation of all the other conventions meant to whip up some fervor amongst the masses?.

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  TheListener

  Hello Insearchoftruth. It's great to see you post again. Sorry to hear your situation hasn't changed all that much. Hang in there.
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  No Reading,PA conventions this year

  by jdubsnub in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hope this isnt a repost.

  i tried to search a little but didn't see this anywhere.

  does anybody know where the philadelphia region of witnesses are going to be sent to this year?

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  TheListener

  The Reading, PA Santander Arena and the Mohegan Sun Arena have about the same number of seats. This move seems more about potential cost savings for the WTS than international or regional conventions. I imagine that the Mohegan Sun Arena is newer and nicer.
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  "They're only human!" (the most common defence of the Governing Body)

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkjk3eyd7ee.

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  If they're only human they don't have a right to disfellowship anyone and consider them cutoff from God and friends.
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  Meeting for those wishing to be appointed

  by PrincessCynic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard recently that a nearby congregation which some of my family attend are having this.

  basically the elders are arranging an open meeting with all those who would like to be appointed.

  is this happening everywhere?

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  I've been to these. Typical of witnesses they hold a special formal meeting and bore everyone to death rather than just getting together socially once in awhile and building a real relationship and slowly reminding some of the MS or Elder prospects what the qualifications are.

  The dubs in decades past knew how to be social with one another. The whole organization seemed warmer and friendlier. The dubs now are just frantic and wore out and have little to no time for socializing.
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  Finished Crisis of Conscience Recently

  by wallievase in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well i finally got around to finishing crisis of conscience.

  2 things stood out to me most.. 1. the fact that the gb can question beliefs and noone else can.. 2. strangly the most disturbing fact- its a small one- but actually made the biggest impression on me out of the whole book-.

  the fact that they agreed to send him a copy of his meeting tapes and then refused and admitted in writing that they lied.. obviously there was much more that i got from it and i do find franz situation unique in that he had a whole support system outside of the "truth" and most today including myself have nothing- if i leave my wife hates me, my family wont talk to me, etc- it doesnt provide any solution for that scenario.. any thoughts on the above points- let me know.

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  TheListener

  For the most part CoC confirmed what I had already figured out and provided me with a ton of insight that I would never had been able to get on my own.