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  Tennessee JW claims 9 baptized at assembly, 1960 attended.

  by gaiagirl in

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  i just received a report from an active jw who went to a circuit assembly in eastern tennessee, stating that attendance was 1960 for the sunday address.

  he also stated that 9 were baptized, giving a "growth rate" of 0.46% (if one assumes that all 9 were bible studies, and not merely children of jw parents).

  sounds as if "the love of the greater number is cooling off" in tennessee : ) well, i'm sure that's what jw's would say, anyway.

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  Junction-Guy, you have a study? ROFLMAO!! That is great! How do you hide your feelings while they're there. What is the status of your study? Are you progressing spiritually?
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  My reinstatment letter is in

  by nonamegiven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, sunday after the public talk i turned in my letter to be let back in the club.

  i changed it a little bit from what you saw in my post a while back.

  i added some info to let them know that i do attend meetings while on the road for work.

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  I wish you the best. I hope this helps you stay connected to your family.

  Good luck
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  Did you stop singing the songs BEFORE you stopped going to meetings?

  by zack in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after i found out the truth abouth the troof, i could not--- i mean physically could not---- sing a note of a jw song at a meeting.. this was way before i decided to make a plan and a final break.

  this happen to anyone?.

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  I lip synched. Sometimes I would just stand there and not lip synch.
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  Pressure to conform from his wife's congregation; Part 2

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is what was said in part 1 of this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/125918/1.ashx.

  so this guy i see occasionally at work (he's a traveling .

  representative and passes thru now and then) is really easy.

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  TheListener

  I think you've done a fantastic job.

  Keep up the good work.

  You fulfill an important part of his life right now - unconditional listening. Plus you have the right life experience to give suggestions.

  I really wonder what the wife thought about Crisis of Conscience. The information she read will stick with her for a long long time and hopefully the seed will germinate.
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  Uhhhhh, may have done something stupid...not sure...

  by mama1119 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, so my best friend calls this morning.

  she has left the borg, but the rest of her family hasn't.

  she was invited over to her moms house last night for dinner and her grandparents were suppossed to be there.

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  TheListener

  Hey, I have some relatives you could call.

  That was a nice way to stick up for your friend - good for you.
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  9/11 Pentagon video released, shows explosion and no plane

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as shown on cnn: no plane on video from hotelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atj5sute0oq.

  no big plane aa77 on pentagon videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4fjdamiffi.

  removing evidence and witnesses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjejip_47tq.

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  TheListener

  A few questions that this thread brought to mind (some mentioned by others already):

  1. If it was a conspiracy why did the conspirators use real planes for the WTC and not for the Pentagon? (brought up by another poster earlier in the thread)

  2. Were there passengers/crew on the WTC planes?

  3. Was the Pennsylvania flight part of the conspiracy?

  4. Were there passengers/crew on the Pennsylvania flight?

  5. Are there absolutely no pictures that show a plane before/during/after hitting the pentagon? or video?

  6. Has anyone from the government, who is in a position to leak information, done so?

  I would really appreciate answers to these questions.
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  What do you tell your kids about you're exit or near to exit WTS ?

  by Ancientofdays in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the last year i made myself aware of wts.

  then i resigned from elder, i stopped service , i stopped family study, but i'm still a formal jw.

  my wife is still a convinced jw, and we often "discuss" (really sometime we scream a bit too much).

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  I'm so sorry Candidly.

  I dread the day my children get baptized. I can hardly take it when they attend the meetings.

  At each step the organization gets its hooks in a little deeper; meeting attendance, commenting, field service, TMS talks, baptism, etc etc etc.

  The best point to save someone is before all of that begins.

  This thread is freaking me out!! I better work harder and smarter at this.
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  What do you tell your kids about you're exit or near to exit WTS ?

  by Ancientofdays in

  1. watchtower
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  in the last year i made myself aware of wts.

  then i resigned from elder, i stopped service , i stopped family study, but i'm still a formal jw.

  my wife is still a convinced jw, and we often "discuss" (really sometime we scream a bit too much).

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  LeslieV, thanks for your experience. I needed to hear that today.
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  Help! they're giving me a talk #4 entittled:" IDENTIFYING APOSTATES"

  by dark angle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is quite awkward for me to give!

  our elder gave me that assignment last week and should be delivered next week on the theocratic ministry school.

  considering i have very unconventional views for the wts about blood, evolution, bible, and the gb, delivering this talk seemd quite maladroit.

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  It's not often that someone is so direct and frank from the platform. A lot of the TMS speakers tend to softpeddle the truth. Hopefully your presentation will cause some to think about the organization they're a part of.
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  What do you tell your kids about you're exit or near to exit WTS ?

  by Ancientofdays in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the last year i made myself aware of wts.

  then i resigned from elder, i stopped service , i stopped family study, but i'm still a formal jw.

  my wife is still a convinced jw, and we often "discuss" (really sometime we scream a bit too much).

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  TheListener

  This is a really tough question and situation.

  Based on your post I assume you don't want your kids to choose being dubs unless they've heard the pros and cons of being one.

  What you say and how you say it really depends on your relationship with your wife and other dub family members. Kids aren't real good at keeping secrets. So whatever you tell them will get around. If you don't mind getting disfellowshipped or having your wife really angry with you and quite possibly being labeled an apostate there are many things you can do.

  Do you currently plan on remaining a christian? If so, you could find some literature (both hard copy and online) aimed at christian parents and children. For the younger one an example would be WhitsEnd.org. For yourself family.org may be helpful as well.

  Whether remaining a christian or not I recommend teaching your children to think for themselves. Teach them critical thinking abilities. I use television commercials aimed at children as a prime way to accomplish this. If you want more detail on that feel free to pm me. Your witness wife shouldn't object as long as you don't use the WTS in a direct reference.

  I also make sure my children understand that anyone who says they have all the answers DOESN'T.

  Good luck.