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  The serious conversation with the wife about the cult- part 2

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. friends

  the book study overseer hasn't asked why i won't come to the bookstudy, he gets .

  be the month i stopped going to the k.h.

  not going this week than it was about missing other meetings.. i told her that i would not be going to the meetings at all anymore.

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  TheListener

  Sounds really good OTWO!!

  No more meetings!!!!

  I remember my very same discussion with my wife when I had finally had enough of the meetings.

  It feels good not to go.
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  DF for celebrating Birthdays??

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone ever heard of someone being dfd for celebrating their or their childrens birthday???.

  (my first post- took a lot to work up the courage- i'll tell more details later).

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  TheListener

  Hi lrkr.

  Depending on what outcome you want to achieve you will need to choose your words wisely.

  From your post I'm assuming you must attend meetings regularly enough for your 8 year old to communicate with his/her friends at the hall? Or perhaps a witness relative.

  If it's a foregone conclusion that you celebrated and you can't/won't lie your way out of that then your best bet is to feign ignorance and repentance.

  It doesn't happen often but, yes, they can disfellowship you for celebrating a birthday - it's a false religious practice - to them.

  Don't argue scriptures with them. They won't believe you, listen to you or learn from your wisdom. That is unless your face is the shape of a WT, then they'll listen to whatever craziness you speak.
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  I went to the Memorial.

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just going to start at the beginning.. i was anticipating the memorial all day.

  i was nervous but excited, kind of like standing in line for a roller coaster.. ok. so erika gets ready at her house, and i get ready at mine.

  i'm wearing a black suit with a light green shirt, and a tie that had hues of green and yellow in it.

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  Well done Richie. Well done indeed.

  I especially enjoyed this little phrase:

  holy spirit powered flashlights

  So true.

  Your mother needs to feel the effects of her shunning. Perhaps feeling the effects and seeing its consequences will one day help her to break free.
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  The Tower of Babel... What's up with that?

  by LtCmd.Lore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  seriously,,, what was gods problem?

  the story of babel bothered me for quite a while.

  after all, satan made a few challenges right?

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  I just re-read that entire thread and it was really good. I do highly recommend it.
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  The Tower of Babel... What's up with that?

  by LtCmd.Lore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  seriously,,, what was gods problem?

  the story of babel bothered me for quite a while.

  after all, satan made a few challenges right?

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  We discussed Nimrod in a thread about 9 months ago. It's an interesting read. Well, it is to me anyway.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/114642/1.ashx
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  A former "Bethelite" JW's friend of mine wants to "Disassociate".

  by booker-t in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine that was at bethel when the "change" came out about the "generation of 1914" in 1995 wants to "disassociate" himself but is terrified that his family especially his mother(who is of the annoited) will totally shun him.

  his whole family are jw's his uncle an elder, his sisters pioneers, etc; any advice i could give him?

  i know what it is like since my mom has been a devout jw's since 1967.

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  I encourage the fade in a case like this. It worked for me....so far....
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  MICHIGAN PEOPLE!!!...Multi-millionaire witness Pat Patterson.....

  by integ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone heard of this guy?.

  he built up an insurance agency in michigan, and sold it for over 10 million dollars.. apparently, at his big office in novi, michigan, he only hires witnesses and they are all making big bucks.. i know an agent who was going to work for him in another state (they do business in 10 states i think), but declined to sign up when he found out the organization was owned and operated by witnesses.. he said: "that explains the ridiculously low commissions they pay their agents".

  they sell alot of life insurance.. why would this witness owned agency push life insurance if the end is so near???.

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  Are there any witnesses from Novi, MI who can tell us more? Inquiring minds want to know.

  I wish there had been a millionaire in some of my old congregatons.
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  I'm Attending the Memorial

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my lovely girlfriend and i sat down over a homecooked meal, and discussed the pros and cons of attending the memorial.. i decided, with her support, that we would attend.. i spent years of my life pretending to be a witness to please my mother.

  when i left the witnesses, my mother said some hurtful things.. and those things really hurt me... for a while.

  but i established myself as my own person, developed my own relationships, and have gotten a good start on my own life.. i don't know that i want to hurt my mother back, but i do want to make it abundantly clear to her, my grandmother, and all the members of my former congregation, that richierich is alive and kicking.. and i think that walking into the kingdom hall, dressed respectfully in a suit, yet with full piercing jewelry intact, and with erika wearing something classy that steals the brother's eyes, and draws glares from the humble sisters, will be just the thing to send that message to my mother.. i don't plan on partaking or making a disturbance.

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  TheListener

  Richie,

  I admire your strength. You have done well. Perhaps going will give some young ones hope that they can break free and live the life they deserve and perhaps desire.

  Good luck man.
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  I cant continue to live like this i really need help

  by Tryin2FindAnewMe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok im trying desperatley just to be done with everything.

  i'm so depressed because it feels as though i'm living my life wrong.

  why cant i get from under the dark cloud, that keeps me down.

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  TheListener

  Trying2find,

  I am glad you found this site. You'll meet a lot of nice helpful people. You will also get a good view of lots of different belief systems.

  Please feel free to post your feelings here. You will get a listening ear.

  Good luck.
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  They question/analyze everything- except the Watchtower

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of you were probably the type to question everything or analyze everything, yet .

  just accept whatever the wts says.

  you broke out of that.

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  TheListener

  What a good thread.

  My wife and I have an unspoken agreement. She doesn't get upset and irritated with me for not attending the meetings (at least in front of me) and I don't try to bug her with anti-WT information.

  In fact, my wife doesn't really know why I am not an active witness anymore. We have no open communication on the subject of the WT. She does not want to know what I've found or what I think on the subject.

  My children on the other hand have seen the hypocrisy of those who are witnesses.

  I strive to be a great father and a loving husband. My wife's activity level has dropped but she still believes it all.

  I just keep living my life in such a way that I can be proud and hope and pray that one day she'll see the light herself.