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  "Jehovah ALWAYS has worked through ONE organization!"

  by Dagney in

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  how many times have we heard this?.

  i would like to know if any of you have any good arguements refuting this.

  my brain is fried from two weeks of "fencing" with jw's.

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  TheListener

  Hi Dagney,

  I asked this same question a couple years ago. Here is the link to that discussion.

  Good luck.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/87078/1.ashx
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  so let me get this straight

  by 4digitcode in

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  i have been on here for only the past 3 days or so....so i don't really know how it goes.. this is an 'apostate' site right?.

  so today i've learned that there is just the ol' regular apostate and an 'active' apostate.. but are there actually active witnesses on this site as well??.

  because i just saw a topic about someone asking for advice on how to do a talk?.

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  TheListener

  Welcome 4digitcode. This board is for everyone. There are many many ex-witnessses here and there are many witnesses here too. We have all kinds - from atheists to born agains. It makes for delightful conversation and pleasant company.

  Welcome.

  I wouldn't tell you not to get reinstated - that's a personal choice. But, I will tell you that it is a long hard road and you'll have to do some serious mental gymanstics to make it work.

  I wish you the best of luck in whatever you choose.
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  I am so mad right now, I am in a rage.

  by Paralipomenon in

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  this is a vent.

  i just showed up at work and am livid.

  the reason?

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  Is it just me or is hearing (or reading) Para and his wife talk to each other via posts just the best thing ever!!!

  I am green with envy right now. I can't even begin to know what it would feel like for my wife to read and post on JWD - regardless of where her beliefs lie.

  I have a lot of respect for both of you.
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  Please welcome my wife to the JWD

  by Paralipomenon in

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  2. friends

  this has been an interesting week.

  early in the week my wife started corresponding with one of her old friends.

  he is no longer a witness and while i'm not sure what the catalyst was they started talking about why he left the witnesses.

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  TheListener

  Welcome Bobbi. I'm glad you're checking the place out.

  Enjoy the board.
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  Was the Watchtower taken off guard by the internet and XJW forums

  by JH in

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  do you think that the internet and xjw forums caught the watchtower off guard?

  just a few years ago, disfellowshipped ones were powerless and rendered silent by the watchtower.. to what degree do you think the internet has made life difficult for the watchtower?.

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  TheListener

  I've thought about that too Tatiana.

  I think it has to do with being artistic rather than purely logical. Just because someone is famous they aren't logical. In fact many famous people have business managers that handle their financial empires. Perhaps it is sort of an extension to have a religion handle your faith? Others may feel that a very structured religion grounds them and gives them some defined moral center.

  I know the WTS attracts artistic and logical people and some that are both but artistic individuals tend to be more sensitive to the world around them and a future paradise earth (minus the first 6 billion deaths) must seem attractive.

  imho.
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  I know it's only a discussion forum...

  by nvrgnbk in

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  but how has having a place like jwd improved your life?.

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  TheListener

  Since finding this forum I've lost weight, grew hair on my balding head, found a supermodel girlfriend and bought a Ferrari.

  Oh, sorry, that was a tv commercial for making it rich in real estate.

  I have met some great people that I consider true friends and I feel I have the support necessary to deal with my situation and enjoy my life.

  Thank you all very very much.
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  Was the Watchtower taken off guard by the internet and XJW forums

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  do you think that the internet and xjw forums caught the watchtower off guard?

  just a few years ago, disfellowshipped ones were powerless and rendered silent by the watchtower.. to what degree do you think the internet has made life difficult for the watchtower?.

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  TheListener

  Terry I see one flaw in your Rome/Hanibal comparison.

  The WTS depends upon converts. They need fresh recruits to constantly refill their ranks. The information on the internet may be useless to many dubs because they won't look - but potential converts do look - especially potential converts in industrialized nations with disposable income.

  Sure Rome could hide behind their walls and wait Hanibal out. The WTS can't. They must venture out into our territory and preach.

  Plus Hanibal had the chance to sack Rome directly after his victory at Cannae. Instead he tried to win allies using diplomacy. We cannot sugar coat the truth about the truth. Why would we? We must state the facts and let the possible converts decide for themselves. In my opinion this is how we take the fight right to the WT. We use their talk outlines, their literature, their recorded District Conventions, Circuit Assemblies, Special Assembly Days and the experience of thousands of former members to take the theological fight to their very door step.

  We are in a battle for people's freedom. I believe the information on the internet has slowed the flow of new converts. Good.

  Let the WTS cower behind their walls; let them warn their membership about us; they have now power over us or those they meet in the ministry.

  More whiskey anyone?
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  August KM provides solid evidence of declining JW morale

  by sir82 in

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  as you may or may not recall, the february '07 km (for the us) had a huge article, taking up the full 4 page insert, on the "blessings" of auxiliary pioneering.

  the part covering that insert took up the entire service meeting (aside form the announcements).

  the "encouragement" was that the us branch had set a goal of 160,000 auxiliary pioneers for the month of april ("if only one of every 6 publishers signs up, we can make it!")..

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  I'll look through my previous threads. I did a calculation over the past few years about how many english DCs there were versus Foreign Language DCs.
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  I had no idea there were people who felt like me

  by Orgull in

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  2. beliefs

  i've recently begun challenging my beliefs.

  all my beliefs, including those ingrained in me as one raised "in the truth".. a few years ago i sought therapy for chronic depression and my treatment was remarkably successful.

  as a side effect, things that used to "work" for me no longer fit with the new emotional pathways and strengths i was developing.

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  TheListener

  Welcome Orgull.

  I'm really glad you found the board. It's a real life saver.

  It's great to talk with people who have similar experiences and can help each other.

  I look forward to your posts and hearing how you feel as you learn more and more.
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  R.F'S MUM JUST HAD EMERGENCY SURGERY

  by free2think in

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  2. friends

  i just spoke to r.f.

  he told me his mum was rushed to hospital early yesterday morning in a great deal of pain.

  she subsequently had emergency surgery and is now in intensive care.

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  TheListener

  I'm really sorry to hear this R.F.

  I wish you and your mother the best.