as most of you know by now i have told you that my mom has been a "devout" jw for over 40 years and i can't get her to budge.
well the last time we debated she left me totally confused and in a daze.
i did some fast research and this past sunday we had a free-for-all debate that lasted 5 hours.
booker-t...
Sorry for what you're going thru...so let me get this straight...
...if there are two people on an elevator and one of them is receiving insructions from another on the phone on how to stab the other person on the elevator...then is the one doing the stabbing really the murderer or is he just getting insrtuctions from the murderer on the outside and is really only acting as a murderer?
Hope you were wearin' your boots that day.
-BONEZZ
the society's new book 'organized to do jehovah's will', to be released in the congregations .
on the 20th of march, introduces a change in the df and da announcements.
announcements will read the same: "[name of person] is no longer one of jehovah's .
So this new announcment will probably mean a softening in attitude towards "non-witnesses"....Yeah Right!!!
- Watchtower 1988 April 15 pp.26-31 Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit
14 The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum, in line with the divine principle: "Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person [or guilty of another gross sin], . . . not even eating with such a man."?
if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. - ENOURAGING THE BREAKUP OF THE FAMILY RELATIONSHIP
"Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person [or guilty of another gross sin], . - SLANDEROUS STATEMENT (Especially when used against those who walk/fade away)
This "new" announcement has to be legalistically inspired.
-BONEZZ
from barbara anderson:.
http://www.freeminds.org/women/defendingtruth.htm.
it appeared in the december 8, 1991 awake!
Good Luck, Good Luck (repeated for emphasis) to you. Reading thru that makes you realize that they (WTBS) will spare no expense in defending their sullied religious organization. Oh how they are making Jehovah's name proud. If there is a Devine One, then there has to be an extra little punishment for these special hypocrites when the day of reckoning comes.
-BONEZZ
PS. maybe their day of reckoning will come at the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court.
take a good look at the feb. 22 '05 awake magazine.
it's entitled "the role of mothers.
as educators".
I whole heartedly agree and no one has fully explained why a 2003 report names the Indian branch of WTBS as one of the largest recipients and one of the largest donors (page 6 i believe).
http://www.dec.org/pdf_docs/PNACS222.pdf
Gotta run, will check back.
-BONEZZ
Could they be doing their NGO biz under another name?
the bethelites who almost went out with michael jackson in service
the following is a true story.
when she came back with some money she asked michael if he had ever been told that he sure looked like michael jackson.
since it is well defined that when the wt kicks you out you are disfellowshipped - there action.
and that when you want to leave you disassociate - your action.
how is it that the wt can da you?
I think it?s all legal semantics. In the case of blood, think of all the families who could sue if loved ones died rather than be ?officially? disfellowshipped for taking blood products?and then the society reverses policy and allows a certain product to be taken at a later date? I believe the lawyers have told them that it?s better for the individual to make up his own mind and/or decision in such cases.
What chaps me is, the WTBS treats the people who want to walk/fade away by disassociating exactly like DF?d members??like fornicators and drunkards?, etc., THAT IS SLANDER!
Watchtower 1988 April 15 pp.26-31 Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit
Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit
14 The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum, in line with the divine principle: "Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person [or guilty of another gross sin], . . . not even eating with such a man."?1 Corinthians 5:11.
Someday they will pay heavily for the breakup of families.
-BONEZZ
I think lonleysheep, Mary and others have nailed it. Many are probably considered "spiritually weak" and this is their way of possibly getting their ticket to Paradise (note to Avishai: Not the one in CA). I had an experience that confirmed this about a year ago. I was nailing posters all over my town about the child molestation mess. This one lady, a spiritually weak sister took it upon herself to write a letter to the editor and call it all lies. I could not have asked for a better opportunity to witness to the community.
I responded with my own letter to the editor and backed everything up with irrefutable facts. I am sure that sister got a talking to from the elders...something like, "now Sister Weak, we realize you were trying to defend Jehovah's Organization but that is better left up to the elders, so NO more letters to the editor!" In my second letter I challenged the Jehovah's Witness elders of the community to refute my statements. Nothing from the chicken-shit jerks! I think I'll post my original poster, along with the letters to the editor for you folks...you should enjoy it.
-BONEZZ
when i first saw the jw psa i fired an email off to cbs.
this was my second email to them.
i haven't been up early enough lately to see if they ignored this one too but i'll check it out next week.
Merrymag...It's the PSA that shows a young girl "chatting" to someone on the evil internet while a voiceover says somethings like..."yes he knows all about you...he knows what you like", etc and you see type on her screen that is something to the effect that this person has tickets to a concert for her...blah blah...and finally the camera dissolves to "his" screen and then pulls away to reveal...A DIRTY OLD MAN, in his undershirt complete with beer can. Hmmm, I wonder if they used a GB member for the part? Oh yeah, at the very end it shows a good little perfect JW family and says something about listening to words from the bible and quotes a scripture...and has an 800# up for a very short time.
-BONEZZ
when i first saw the jw psa i fired an email off to cbs.
this was my second email to them.
i haven't been up early enough lately to see if they ignored this one too but i'll check it out next week.
Dave...good idea. I think it's very ironic that CBS is running a JW/Watch out for child molester spot while NBC/Dateline, and others, have done stories on the Dub/Molest issue. Brenda...no I forgot to mention Silent Lambs. If anyone else sees that thing again please post where you saw it...what network, time, etc. So far CBS is the only one I've seen it on.
kwintestal...I think it was.... earlyshow@cbs.com
-BONEZZ
when i first saw the jw psa i fired an email off to cbs.
this was my second email to them.
i haven't been up early enough lately to see if they ignored this one too but i'll check it out next week.
Thanks. It only took a couple of minutes to locate their email address and send it off. I was getting pretty chapped seeing the damn thing every morning. Now I just have to get my sorry ass up early again and see if they're continuing to run it. If they are....hmm...I can locate others in power over there and burn their damn earlobes off.
-BONEZZ