John" was telling me about different girls he had slept with, girls who are pioneers and have never been disciplined by the elders. "John" was telling me about elders who he regularly gets drunk with and who tell him that they hate going to meetings and wish they could stop. "John" was telling me about skinny dipping parties he went to with ministerial servants and pioneers
You should say that these things he told you stumbled you. It was as if he was watering your seeds of doubt. That ought to cause them to feel guilty.