Posts by BoozeRunner

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Truth hurts

by Decidedly_Unsure in

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i can't believe it's all a sham!

remember before i was baptized, i wondered onto a hostile site and felt a sickening dread, when i confronted the sister who studied with me she reassured me that i shouldn't worry, all the stuff on those sites are written by bitter outcasts who have nothing constructive to offer, "after all", she said, ""did you ever read anything upbuilding there?

" well, here i am baptized, back on the net 4 years later and wham!!

BoozeRunner

Unsure, one thing you will find here is FREEDOM-freedom to think, freedom to question, freedom to express onesself.

The WTS has made an art form out of convincing people to examine their religious beliefs, has consistently criticized other religions for their misguided application of scripture, or lack of application altogether.
Yet, can it TRULY be said that the WTS can withstand to such scrutiny itself? One has only to look at their prophetic announcements, for example, 1914, 1925, 1975. By their own writings, they qualify as a FALSE PROPHET.
I believe that if 6 million JW's truly had the "truth", a few "apostates" could not possiby shipwreck anyones faith.
Just one aspect that you should consider.

Boozy

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Are there any inactive bro/sis. trying to get back

by matrix1313 in

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i was wondering if there are any brothers or sisters who for various reasons have drifted away or left the truth and are trying to get back to serve jehovah.

BoozeRunner

BTW Matrix, welcome to the board.

p.s. If I ever decide to go back, I will follow the GREAT BLINKING LIGHT OF TRUTH as instructed by the Fateful and Depleted Knave Class or shall I say the
Governing Boobies.

Boozy

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Are there any inactive bro/sis. trying to get back

by matrix1313 in

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i was wondering if there are any brothers or sisters who for various reasons have drifted away or left the truth and are trying to get back to serve jehovah.

BoozeRunner

Get back??? I made that mistake 10 years ago. Out again, this time for good. I had help tho-misguided elders.

hmmmmmm...4x4? Is there gonna be a tailgate party?

Boozy

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Truth hurts

by Decidedly_Unsure in

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i can't believe it's all a sham!

remember before i was baptized, i wondered onto a hostile site and felt a sickening dread, when i confronted the sister who studied with me she reassured me that i shouldn't worry, all the stuff on those sites are written by bitter outcasts who have nothing constructive to offer, "after all", she said, ""did you ever read anything upbuilding there?

" well, here i am baptized, back on the net 4 years later and wham!!

BoozeRunner

Hi Unsure, and welcome.

The WTS specializes in this kind of rhetoric-SAYING NOTHING, TALKING LOUD.

Consider the following:

Heres what they say about so-called "apostates"

All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is upbuilding.

What could be more upbuilding than seeking change to policies which destroy, and in some cases END lives?

all of which is designed to undermine the faith of Jehovah's people.

I would change that to "all of which is designed to RELEASE PEOPLE FROM THE CULT CONTROL OF THE WTS"

To what have the apostates returned?

Normal lives free from serving the interests of a self-perpetuating organization which has exploited the spirituality that God has instilled in each one of us.

Moreover, most no longer take a firm Scriptural stand regarding blood, neutrality,....

The BLOOD ISSUE? The WTS has assumed the role of doctors and God himself with its most recent "blood fractions" crap. NEUTRALITY??? Can you say MEXICO?

15 Some may be inquisitive about accusations that the apostates make.

If someone accused your father of a horrible crime, would you not look to him to defend himself?
Hell, even Bill Clinton said. "I did not have sex with that woman!"
Even Bill Clinton said, "I did not inhale!"

Lame, but the poor bastard tried.

Boozy

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Society instructions to elders about child abuse

by ozziepost in

in view of current developments it may be useful to some who have come to the child abuse issue only recently to highlight the watchtower society's instructions to elders.. in a letter to boe dated november 1, 1995 they make the incriminating statement "it is important to first obtain the society's direction to protect both the elders and the organisation.

incriminating?

yes, for they show clearly what is most important to them.

BoozeRunner

Yep, these letters really show where the WTS' head is-IN THE SAND!!!

They cant blame "disgruntled apostates"
for the crap that coes outta their own mouths.

Boozy

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Elders under daily pressure

by ozziepost in

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one newly appointed elder said: "i never realised how much work and pressure i would be under.".

elders are pressured from the society who use the medium of the co visit as well as letters from the branch office.

this pressure may even be termed pressurising.

BoozeRunner

Hi Ozzie-excellent points you made:

The pressure that these brothers are under is constant. It's typical of a works based theological structure that an organisation like the Watchtower has.
They, too, are victims.
Sadly many of them believe they are doing a good work by being elders.

The elders are the equivalent of middle-management in any corporation. The bear alot of pressure, and therefore can end up as sacraficial lambs when matters arent handled properly.

Boozy

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Advice From an MS

by BoozeRunner in

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reading some posts tonite made me think of some advice i was given by a ms one day.. at the kh one sunday, i had genuinely asked brother g. how he was feeling.

i knew he had health problems and could see he was kind of uncomfortable.

he replied that his blood pressure had been high, and he was feeling the effects of it.. he then went on to explain that he rarely goes into detail because most brothers and sisters dont want to hear a persons problems.

BoozeRunner

Hi Amazing,
I understand what you mean. I can appreciate the demands that life puts on many. The WTS likes to brag so much about the so-called "Spiritual Paradise" they claim to have, when in fact, pressures of life effect JW's in the same way as non-JW's.
Sometimes we simply dont have time or energy to listen to all we would like to about another's tribulations.

Boozy

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Out of the MOUTHS? of babes

by BoozeRunner in

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not a jw story, but years ago, while inactive, i was dating a young woman with an infant daughter.

i had recieved an invitation to listen to one of those time-share schpiels in the poconos.

we werent intrested, but figured it was a good way to spend a saturday.

BoozeRunner

Prisca, absolutely!!

Scorpion, thus the ? at the end of the word "mouths".

LOL,
Boozy

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Out of the MOUTHS? of babes

by BoozeRunner in

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not a jw story, but years ago, while inactive, i was dating a young woman with an infant daughter.

i had recieved an invitation to listen to one of those time-share schpiels in the poconos.

we werent intrested, but figured it was a good way to spend a saturday.

BoozeRunner

Not a JW story, but years ago, while inactive, I was dating a young woman with an infant daughter. I had recieved an invitation to listen to one of those Time-share schpiels in the Poconos. We werent intrested, but figured it was a good way to spend a Saturday.

We toured the facilty, then endured the high pressure tactics, you know, where they sit all the prospective buyers in a large room, then announce each new member over the PA system, while ALL the sales people lead the room in applause.

Seeing that we werent budging on our decision NOT to purchase, the saleman then had us meet with the sales mananger PRIVATELY. He went through his sales pitch for about 20 minutes, at the end of which the baby let loose a loud, very wet fart. We couldnt have said it better ourselves. We left his office holding in our laughter til we were clear.

Then we changed her diaper.

Out the mouths? of babes!!

Boozy

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Advice From an MS

by BoozeRunner in

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reading some posts tonite made me think of some advice i was given by a ms one day.. at the kh one sunday, i had genuinely asked brother g. how he was feeling.

i knew he had health problems and could see he was kind of uncomfortable.

he replied that his blood pressure had been high, and he was feeling the effects of it.. he then went on to explain that he rarely goes into detail because most brothers and sisters dont want to hear a persons problems.

BoozeRunner

Reading some posts tonite made me think of some advice I was given by a MS one day.

At the KH one Sunday, I had genuinely asked Brother G. how he was feeling. I knew he had health problems and could see he was kind of uncomfortable. He replied that his blood pressure had been high, and he was feeling the effects of it.

He then went on to explain that he rarely goes into detail because most Brothers and Sisters DONT want to hear a persons problems. He said, " I just say I am fine."

So true, isnt it? Tell someone you have a RV or a BS and they are busy thinking about how THEY can get some of those hours on their report, but tell thm you are having problems and its the old cliches:

A:This old system
B:Wait on Jehovah
C:Just keep doing what you are doing (I'm suffering you asshole!!!)
D:Go out in service more-that'll keep your mind off things

Ah yes, fair-weather friendships in the BORG

Boozy