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  active and happy jw

  by scumgrief in

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  i am an active jw and was raised as one.

  i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.

  i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).

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  Just wondering Scumgrief,
  Does Jehovah need his people to be protected from information? I personally think the real truth can stand up against any information. If it cannot then something is very wrong and I want to know what. I too have been where you are, I believed and strongly supported everything coming from the WT. Finally I decided if I have to be protected from information that the entire world can have (in one case Ray Franz' book) then Jehovah must be very weak, I could not believe that or accept that, so I started reading and researching, guess what happened! I am free, as the scripture says, "if the Son sets you free, you are free indeed" Keep an open mind, or maybe, open your mind. May God's Spirit really direct you.
  Borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  Just leaving? come to the convention.

  by borgfree in

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  i will start by saying, i am not a part of the ministry sponsoring the convention and i have nothing to gain (materially) by promoting the convention.. when i left the organization, i did not know what i would do, i would not go to 'babylon the great' so i planned to just live my life as best i could.

  someone invited me to the 'witnesses now for jesus' convention, i said i would not go, but changed my mind at the last moment and went anyway.

  going to that convention changed my life forever.

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  Bboyneko,

  This will be my 9th year attending the convention, I speak from experience. How many times have you been there? I would not claim that the convention is anything but Christian centered. I do not consider Christian, Christ or Jesus bad words.

  I said you would be welcomed just the way you are and that has been my experience. I will welcome you just the way you are. I cannot promise that everyone there will not try to encourage you to see things their way but I do not know of anyone I have met there who would be pushy to you.

  I completely deny your charge of deception on either my part or the part of the website. I mean every word of what I said and I cannot see where you can make a charge of deception about their site when you say very clearly that they state they are Christian, and that Christian testimonies will be given there.

  I would not try to force my Christian beliefs on you, I do not think you can make the same claim about your beliefs. Neither would I call, what you hold dear, every name I could come up with.

  Borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  Just leaving? come to the convention.

  by borgfree in

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  i will start by saying, i am not a part of the ministry sponsoring the convention and i have nothing to gain (materially) by promoting the convention.. when i left the organization, i did not know what i would do, i would not go to 'babylon the great' so i planned to just live my life as best i could.

  someone invited me to the 'witnesses now for jesus' convention, i said i would not go, but changed my mind at the last moment and went anyway.

  going to that convention changed my life forever.

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  Hi Badwillie,
  I am not real sure. We used to go to NY from the convention to picket for a few hours. We would stop by Philadelphia to pick up some ex's, I think it was about an hours drive. The convention is between New Ringgold and Snyders PA on RT 895. Hope to see you there.
  Borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  Just leaving? come to the convention.

  by borgfree in

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  i will start by saying, i am not a part of the ministry sponsoring the convention and i have nothing to gain (materially) by promoting the convention.. when i left the organization, i did not know what i would do, i would not go to 'babylon the great' so i planned to just live my life as best i could.

  someone invited me to the 'witnesses now for jesus' convention, i said i would not go, but changed my mind at the last moment and went anyway.

  going to that convention changed my life forever.

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  borgfree

  Just wanted to bring this up again for the sake of Badwillie and Truth especially, and others. I am leaving for Pennsylvania tonight after work and would really like to see some of you there.
  Borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  NEWS: I am publicly reproved over UN situation.

  by badwillie in

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  my wife and i met with 3 elders for a "judicial hearing".. our crime: simply put, was talking.

  i showed a friend the un website where the wts was listed as an ngo which then led to a 2 hour discussion of various doubts that we both have had.

  my wife also showed a friend the un thing but also discussed with her a first hand account of a pedophile cover-up that we knew about in our former congregation.

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  Hi Badwillie,
  I will not express sorrow or regret for you. I am thrilled for you. I congradulate you and your wife. It may be a little hard now but you are headed for a great freedom. Bless you both.

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  Help!! I am extremely confused.

  by Leander in

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  i'm at a definite crossroad in my life right now and i don't know which direction to turn.. for my entire life i've been taught to believe in one thing but now i'm seeing things that i never knew where there before.

  i find it very disturbing that there has been so many predictions the wts has made in the past that failed to come true.

  also the bouncing back and forth on certain doctrines make me question my beliefs.. but on the other hand i can't ignore things like the fact the organization is growing while other religions are on the decline.

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  Hi Leander,

  Everyone has made good points. I would like to just say one thing about the Society's claim of preaching. There are several good Christian preachers on radio and TV. ONE of those TV preachers proclaiming the real 'good news'/ gospel of the birth,death, and resurrection of the Savior will reach more people than half of the entire WT organization, the witnesses are usually met at the door with 'I am not interested' while people listening to the radio or watching TV do so willingly because they want to hear the message.

  borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  11 ??????????

  by borgfree in

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  just received this from a friend.

  submitted without comment.

  borgfree.

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  Ballistic,

  I think it goes like this: NWT In the beginning the Watchtower created 1914. Now 1914 proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon 1914; and the Watchtower was moving to and fro searching for something deep. And the Watchtower proceeded to say:"Let Light Come To Be." Then there came to be New Light. After that the Watchtower saw that New Light worked. And the Watchtower brought about divisions between families. .........

  borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  HELP

  by Kophagangelos in

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  i need the aid!

  since today the elder knows that i am in the website of apostates often.

  they want to visit me.

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  borgfree

  Kophagangelos,

  I am confident that if you ask our Lord for help it will be granted. I hope everything works out wonderful for you. I am forced to sign off now, I am a work and it is a little busy here right now. You will be fine I know.

  borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  HELP

  by Kophagangelos in

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  i need the aid!

  since today the elder knows that i am in the website of apostates often.

  they want to visit me.

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  borgfree

  Kophagangelos,

  Sorry, it may not be posted on the MacGregor site, but go there and email Keith Macgregor ( there will be a (contact us)button) to email him. He will be glad to forward a sample disassociation letter to you. The address again is http://www.macgregorministries.org/ Hope that helps.

  borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
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  HELP

  by Kophagangelos in

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  i need the aid!

  since today the elder knows that i am in the website of apostates often.

  they want to visit me.

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  Nytelecom1,

  I know you cannot help but be cruel, that is the way the borg teaches you, but, your words now WILL come back to haunt you.

  borgfree

  "You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB