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Americans Only--RSVP

by patio34 in

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we received our civil rights thru the efforts of our parents, g-parents, etc.

will we protect them for us and our children and grandchildren?

theyre the ones that will inherit what we do or dont do.

borgfree

Heathen,

I am disgusted with both the Democrats and Republicans. I cannot, in good conscience, vote for Democrats, because their "big tent" supports so many things that I, as a Christian, cannot support.

I thought the Republicans would do a good job because they talked good, small government, lower taxes, do away with welfare abuse, term limits, etc., etc., but for some reason, they have forgotten so many of their "standards" once they got in office.

I just wonder what we can actually do to make a difference. I wonder if the Libertarians, once they gained power, would be any different? I am in favor of giving them a chance.

Borgfree

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A question for Sword of Jah

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah, .

please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

borgfree

SwordofJah,

Your comment:

It's not like I start a conversation when I go door to door about the 1930's. ...........while you spend time crying and stomping over the 1930's

there are reasons to look to the past and to point out past failings, example:

Luke 11:47
"Woe to you, because you build tombs for the prophets, and it was your forefathers who killed them.

And:

Luke 11:48
So you testify that you approve of what your forefathers did; they killed the prophets, and you build their tombs.

JWs like to sweep their past under the carpet and pretend they never made mistakes (false prophesies) but even Jesus brought up the past wrongs of the Jewish leaders as you can see above.

You also said:

I preach to people in the territory about Jehovah, his right as our sovereign ruler, about Jesus and what his ransom sacrifice means to all of us, and also about Jehovah's promises for the future.

Do you really fool yourself into believing you preach the same gospel from door to door that the apostles and early Christians preached? You do not. Most JWs preach the gospel of why you should buy this book,...or Watchtower, or Awake, etc.

Borgfree

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Americans Only--RSVP

by patio34 in

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we received our civil rights thru the efforts of our parents, g-parents, etc.

will we protect them for us and our children and grandchildren?

theyre the ones that will inherit what we do or dont do.

borgfree

I agree with you both, Yerusalyim and ThiChi, but, an instance of what rights are being violated, the Republicans are about to pass a law to appease the Democrats, and to buy votes. They are apparently going to pass the law to refund tax money to people who do not pay taxes.

The people who will get checks for four hundred dollars or more, pay no income tax, they pay social security tax, but, they get an "earned income" refund of two or three thousand dollars, that means they get probably everything they paid in social security tax back. So, they pay nothing, then they will get a "tax refund" of several hundred dollars and also receive social security benefits. And, guess who pays the bill? I think that is violating my rights.

Borgfree

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Americans Only--RSVP

by patio34 in

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we received our civil rights thru the efforts of our parents, g-parents, etc.

will we protect them for us and our children and grandchildren?

theyre the ones that will inherit what we do or dont do.

borgfree

Patio,

I have to admit that I feel a little uneasy about some of the laws that are being passed right now. When the government takes anything away from the people they, (government) never wants to give it back.

The terrorist situation calls for extreme measures, but will we ever be as free again as we once were?

I am not fond of either party, but what really can we do? Last presidential election I voted Libertarian, it did no good what-so-ever. What can we do, really, other that vote? We might make a lot of noise, demonstrate, whatever, but unless enough people decide, all at the same time, to vote 3rd party, or maybe something else, what will we accomplish?

Borgfree

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A question for Sword of Jah

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah, .

please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

borgfree

SwordofJah,

I believe it went something like "those that are from the other sheep" stand up. I think that's what happened if my recollection is true. Most of the attendees stood up showing that most of the new Witnesses in that era were of the other sheep

This was of course after the speaker spent most of the talk telling the attendees that unless they were "sure" "without a doubt" etc. that they were of the heavenly class to "not" partake of the emblems.

My mother was one of those who had been taking the emblems since the early 1920s, but, after the admonition from the speaker, she stopped. She was a very humble person and could not imagine that she was worthy of going to heaven.

Borgfree

48

A question for Sword of Jah

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah, .

please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

borgfree

SwordofJah,

Like the apostles of Jesus that did not understand all of Jesus words until it was time for it to be revealed. The same happens in this modern days.

No it isn't the same. The apostles might have misunderstood some of the things Jesus told them but they did not require all Christian believers to believe as they said or be disfellowshipped. They did not make bold declarations in God's name (phophesy) which then did not come true.

"the Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away."

You will not find the Creator promising any such thing in the bible. This was a Watchtower prophesy.

All of the blaming human error, and saying the apostles did the same thing, will not erase that.

You know the scripture in Deuteronomy about what we should do if a prophet says something in the name of God and it does not come true.

Borgfree

48

A question for Sword of Jah

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah, .

please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

borgfree

SwordofJah,

Jehovah did not lie. He allows humans the priviledge of investigating his Word to find the truth. Obviously the scripture in Matthew was misunderstood for many years. Jehovah reveals information in its due time. After another careful examination of the scripture, this was clarified.

You are right, God did not lie, the Watchtower leaders did.

There's that clarified again. It doesn't work, they prophesied falsly.

Also, they made a prophesy in God's name, that makes them false prophets. I have never seen anywhere in the bible, where a false prophet could later become a true prophet. Once a false phophet, always a false prophet.

Borgfree

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A question for those who question Sword of Jah

by logansrun in

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bradley

borgfree

I think SwordofJah reads the questions/posts even if he does not respond, but I think the thousands who read the posts, from all here, may benefit from the information whether SOJ does or not.

Borgfree

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A question for Sword of Jah

by AwakenedAndFree in

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dear sword of jah, .

please explain to me this watchtower doctrine, which still stands today as a revealed truth from the faithful and discreet slave class revealed in 1935 still taught today: .

judge rutherford, representing the watchtower society announced in 1935 in a convention that the doors to heaven were shut down in 1935, and the gathering of the annointed class was accomplished in 1935. .

borgfree

SwordofJah,

The organization uses these dates because that's when the information was clarified as to the identity of the "little flock" and the "other sheep".

That is a very bold statement, especially since not one date the WT has ever set has come true.

Almost every bible scholar agrees that the other sheep Jesus spoke of, meant the gentiles, not some earthly class dreamed up by Rutherford.

Just reading the bible, without the indoctrination of the Watchtower literature, will show you that He was speaking of the gentiles who would soon be welcomed into the Christian family.

Borgfree

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License Plates

by Jim_TX in

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ok - another thread got me to thinking about this.... how many of yall memorize your license plate number by making up an acronym to remember it by?.

for example... my plates are... .

b52 kdp.

borgfree

My last was

EXIT JWS

the one I have now is

BORGFRE