by patio34 37 Replies latest jw friends
Others, of course, are welcome too!
We received our civil rights thru the efforts of our parents, g-parents, etc. Will we protect them for us and our children and grandchildren? They’re the ones that will inherit what we do or don’t do. There may be a serious and significant threat to some of our civil rights.
That ain't what the sign on the door says.
We were talking about this with my brother last night. He believes we are a Facist state right now. Maybe it's happened very gradually, but he could be right.
Er, I'm having a bit of difficulty getting this to post, so I'll retype it all.
We received our civil rights thru the efforts of our parents, g-parents, etc. Will we protect them for us and our children and grandchildren? They’re the ones that will inherit what we do or don’t do. There may be a serious and significant threat to some of our civil rights.
If at first you don't succeed . . .
I just attended a local meeting re the Patriot Act and Patriot Act II. The speakers were the director of the County Public Libraries and a rep of the ACLU.
After hearing the broad powers of these acts, I would urge everyone to become very informed and, if they choose, to make it known to your representatives and others that our civil liberties are being critically eroded.
Patriot Act and II unleashed a spying free-for-all . . . the new one would enable the FBI, without warrant, to pry into our phone, bank, credit, medical, and ISP records. A person who is suspected of being a terrorist or even giving lunch* to a suspected terrorist unknowingly or even if one is a material witness; this person can be held indefinitely without charge and secretly. Even a US-born citizen could have their citizenship stripped away. Activists could fall under the umbrella of terrorist activities. (latimes.com)
I'm doing this piecemeal
Some of the civil rights that can be disregarded are: no need to show probable cause; no need to get a warrant from a judge; etc.
Check out these websites for more information: The League of Women Voters (http://www.ca.lwv.org/) American Civil Liberties Union at aclu.org
What can you do? Plenty! This is still a democracy. After you educate yourself a bit, then you can email your congressman and search out activists’ groups who are working to rein this in.
In the county and city where I live, there are resolutions being signed for the city council and board of supervisors to urge them not to participate in the removal of Americans’ rights,
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/tia2.html
The city of
Others, of course, are welcome too!
We received our civil rights thru the efforts of our parents, g-parents, etc. Will we protect them for us and our children and grandchildren? They’re the ones that will inherit what we do or don’t do. There may be a serious and significant threat to some of our civil rights.
I just attended a local meeting re the Patriot Act and the proposed 2 nd Patriot Act. The speakers were the director of our County library system and ACLU.
After hearing the broad powers of these Patriot Acts, I would urge every thinking American to become informed about these acts and then try to protect their own civil liberties.
Patriot Act and II unleashed a spying free-for-all . . . the new one would enable the FBI, without warrant, to pry into our phone, bank, credit, medical, and ISP records. A person who is suspected of being a terrorist or even giving lunch* to a suspected terrorist unknowingly or even if one is a material witness; this person can be held indefinitely without charge and secretly. Even a US-born citizen could have their citizenship stripped away. Activists could fall under the umbrella of terrorist activities. (latimes.com)
Some of the civil rights that can be disregarded are: no need to show probable cause; no need to get a warrant from a judge; etc.
Check out these websites for more information: The League of Women Voters (http://www.ca.lwv.org/) American Civil Liberties Union at aclu.org
What can you do? Plenty! This is still a democracy. After you educate yourself a bit, then you can email your congressman and search out activists’ groups who are working to rein this in.
In the county and city where I live, there are resolutions being signed for the city council and board of supervisors to urge them not to participate in the removal of Americans’ rights,
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/tia2.html
The city of
Yes, gradual erosion since the Civil War. You ain't seen nothing yet!
Guest 77
Almost without fail, governments have abused the powers they have and disregarded the rights of individuals. This just swings the pendulum further in their favour so the ycan get away with even more.
I don't think it will contribute one bit to making the USA (or the world) a more secure place but will allow very rich and powerful people to control the population more easily.
They are the kind of powers that are normally associated with communist states or the worst dictatorships. Not a good sign.
They are using the deaths of the victims of Sep 11 for the own ends. Power, and how to hold onto it.
