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  POLL----

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  how many here have been a jw since the 70's or before?......80's on?

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  ValiantBoy

  Family started to meetings in 1982, baptized in 1987 at 11, regular pioneered for a year when I was 12 (what a joke), again at 16 til I was 18. Appointed ministerial servant in 1995. Privately reproved and removed as a servant in 1997. Disfellowshipped 1998. Reinstated 1999. Slowly faded afterwards. By 2002 I had joined another church and become openly gay.
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  Child abuse or consenual relationship?

  by pratt1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a few years ago my brother - law admitted that at 14 he had a sexual relationship for 5 years with the wife of an elder in his congo.. he was at 19 dfed for an affair he had with a fellow student.. he never told any one about the affair with the married sister, but now 10 years later, this sister and her unsufferable husband are planning to become assistant co. .

  my mother - law, who is still in the"lie" now knows about this affair and has made the statement that she has probable asked for forgiveness in her heart therefore the elders do not need to know of the affair.. my brother - law is going through his own issues and because of the way he has been treated ie.. shunned, basically disowned by most of his family, he wants to expose her and her husband who he believes knew about the affair.. i've recommended that he discuss this with his therapist and that he should think about why he feels the need to expose her now.

  by the way this sister is 2 year younger than his mom.

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  ValiantBoy

  My statement about my personal experience was nott o condone what this woman has done, but to demonstrate that circumstances vary. I have great grandparents and othe relatives where some married at 15 then stayed married for 65+ years. Was that abuse just because they were only 15 and their mates were 20 or 21? Not hardly..

  And Tatiana, my comment certainly could not be downplaying the concept of a female abuser, as there was no females involved in that situation :>)
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  Other Church Versions of JW Urban Legends

  by ValiantBoy in

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  i have a cool evangelical friend that send me inspirational forwarded emails...uggh..love her to death, but find the emails annoying at times.

  here's the latest..does it sound at all familiar?

  a young university student was home for the summer.

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  ValiantBoy

  I have a cool evangelical friend that send me inspirational forwarded emails...uggh..love her to death, but find the emails annoying at times. Here's the latest..does it sound at all familiar?

  A young university student was home for the summer. She had gone to visit
  some friends one evening and time passed quickly as each shared their
  various experiences of the past year. She ended up staying longer than
  planned, and had to walk home alone. She wasn't afraid because it was a
  small town and she lived only a few blocks away.

  As she walked along under the tall elm trees, Diane asked "God" to keep her
  safe from harm and danger. When she reached the alley, which was a shortcut
  to her house, she decided to take it. However, halfway down the alley she
  noticed a man standing at the end as though he were waiting for her.

  She became uneasy and began to pray, asking for "God's" protection.
  Instantly a comforting feeling of quietness and security wrapped around her,
  she felt as though someone was walking with her. When she reached the end of
  the alley, she walked right past the man and arrived home safely.

  The following day, she read in the newspaper that a young girl had been
  raped in the same alley just twenty minutes after she had been there.
  Feeling overwhelmed by this tragedy and the fact that it could have been
  her, she began to weep. Thanking the Lord for her safety and to help this
  young woman, she decided to go to the police station. She felt she could
  recognize the man, so she told them her story.

  The police asked her if she would be willing to look at a lineup to see if
  she could identify him. She agreed and immediately pointed out the man she
  had seen in the alley the night before. When! the man was told he had been
  identified, he immediately broke down and confessed.

  The officer thanked Diane for her bravery and asked if there was anything
  they could do for her. She asked if they would ask the man one question.

  Diane was curious as to why he had not attacked her. When the policeman
  asked him, he answered, Because she wasn't alone. She had two tall men
  walking on either side of her."

  Moral of the story: Don't underestimate the power of Prayer!

  Gives ya goose bumps, doesn't it!
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  What religion have you changed to now that no longer a witness?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i know many have rejected the idea of organized religion.

  i teeter on that myself.

  but i have toyed with hooking to a little country church with some friendly people to associate with.

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  ValiantBoy

  Am associated with the UCC--United Church of Christ... this is the liberal off shoot of the Congregationalist Family..not the conservative Church of Christ that is active throughout the south

  I more closely identify with Taoism tho
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  What sin did you ever committ that you thought you never never would?

  by littlerockguy in

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  adultery (sexual relations with a married man); after all i was a prude as an active jw.

  i never thought i would do such a thing.

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  ValiantBoy

  attending a worldy church, smoking pot, visiting an apostate web site...oh the horrors

  done a lot more, but alwyas expected that I would some day ie: sex, gay sex, porn, etc
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  Are You or Were You Ever On Meds For Depression?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know so many people, not just witnesses that are on zoloft or similar drugs.

  i know of some that, once they left the "truth", stopped taking these meds and have not had to go back on them.

  i know of some that, if they did not have them, would not be able to properly function......what about you?

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  ValiantBoy

  I have been on so many pills. I am severley bipolar and it took a long time to get it diagnosed and then even longer to find the right combo of meds, but thankfully have been stbale for a couple of years
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  I'll be interviewed by World Talk Radio on Apr 27th...

  by morrisamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for an hour regarding my book father's touch...should be interesting...i know she is going to ask me about the michael jackson case...here's the web site and info:

  http://www.worldtalkradio.com/archive.asp?aid=3579

  4/27/2005 wednesday 2pm to 3pm pacific time

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  ValiantBoy

  You rock Blondie...
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  Child abuse or consenual relationship?

  by pratt1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a few years ago my brother - law admitted that at 14 he had a sexual relationship for 5 years with the wife of an elder in his congo.. he was at 19 dfed for an affair he had with a fellow student.. he never told any one about the affair with the married sister, but now 10 years later, this sister and her unsufferable husband are planning to become assistant co. .

  my mother - law, who is still in the"lie" now knows about this affair and has made the statement that she has probable asked for forgiveness in her heart therefore the elders do not need to know of the affair.. my brother - law is going through his own issues and because of the way he has been treated ie.. shunned, basically disowned by most of his family, he wants to expose her and her husband who he believes knew about the affair.. i've recommended that he discuss this with his therapist and that he should think about why he feels the need to expose her now.

  by the way this sister is 2 year younger than his mom.

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  ValiantBoy

  What she did was wrong...lying...taking advantage of the situation, etc.

  However, at 15, only one year oldr, I had my first consensual sexual encounter. It was with someone a few years my senior. I initiated the incident and was a more than willing participant. Was it a good idea? NO. Should the other party have gone along with it? NO. Was is it child abuse? No, I don't think it was. And if that person were to have been prosecuted or anything, it would've destroyed me.
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  True Funny WW2 Experience

  by JW83 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is taken from daily telegraph, sydney, 22.9.42, after a convention had not been allowed to go ahead.

  mrs inez stoop, a jws tract distributor, said yesterday: 'do not ask me why the conference was not held.

  you are from a newspaper, and all newspapers and their reporters are of the devil.

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  ValiantBoy

  OMG..how funny..

  The scary thing for me is that a lot of witnesses whom I know and love and respect became witnesses during this time...were they that crazy too?

  At least by the time my fam became witnesses they had toned down a bit :>)
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  I'll be interviewed by World Talk Radio on Apr 27th...

  by morrisamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for an hour regarding my book father's touch...should be interesting...i know she is going to ask me about the michael jackson case...here's the web site and info:

  http://www.worldtalkradio.com/archive.asp?aid=3579

  4/27/2005 wednesday 2pm to 3pm pacific time

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  ValiantBoy

  And DY, I agree with you that many x-witnesses spread disinformation. Some do so intentionally, but many others just have trouble controlling their emotions. ANd while I agree that their are many disfunctional families in all religions, JW's bring reproach on themselves by saying that they are more or less exempt from problems...and then by trying to cover over these problems rather than help the victims.