Uh, yes that ;it matters a ;great deal if they can't feel any pain.
Human life is human life, even though no pain exists. I'll repeat my analogy, you can kill someone painlessly, but that's still murder.
Well holy crap, I guess I'll never take penacilin again.........after all, I would want to ;violate bacteria's Rights to Exist.
That wasn't the point I was making, but, hey, don't kill bacteria if don't want to.
Human conception is not equal to a fully grown baby. ; It just a bunch of cells in the beginning. ; Would you ;equate one wire ;in your PC as the same as ;a fully developed computer? ; These cells at conception do not feel pain because at that point, they do not have "our sophisticated neurological system", so that point is moot.
That's an entirely false analogy. One wire in your PC does not have the potential, ever, to become an entire computer. An zygote is fully capable of becoming a fully formed human being and is a human life. I don't care whether that life can feel pain or not: a life is a life no matter how you go about it. Every human being has the right to exist.
And Classicist, I'd say you owe someone an apology. ; Your posting and judgemental attitude was incredibly insensative.
Yes, I suppose her view is totally correct and moral and I'm completely wrong.. talk about pontificating.
Why is it that all rabid anti-abortionists are always men? Go figure.
Wow, what a great way to convince people, EvilForce; call someone a name! I'll do that too, you rabid homosexual: see, it's not very productive.
Hey if it's me or the lump of cells....too bad I win.
If it's me or the fetal stem cell tissue....too bad I win.
If a Chinese prisioner is selling a redundant organ to support his family for the rest of their life....too bad I win.
Yup, I'm a greedy life loving pig. Nope it's not PC. It ain't pretty. But pontificating on how you would pass on a life saving operation using some discarded fetal tissue. I call bullshite!
You're a real lump of cells, EvilForce. A huge lump of cells, but still a lump of cells. You are an human entity, but so is that embryo. You both have the right to live, but you can't selfishly infringe on another's right to life in order to sustain your own. The Chinese prisoner will still be able to live, but you don't even give the "lump of cells" the ability to. There's a difference between destroying another's life in order to get a life saving operation and taking someone else's tissue, in which case they are still able to life.
Non-embryonic stem cells are more difficult to get. But ethical things are always more difficult to do. Let's put this into an analogy related to your own field: pharmaceutical research. The pharmer wouldn't immediately start testing their drug on humans for it is a reckless use of human life. Sure, it's much easier and a lot less work to go straight to testing on humans, but it's wrong. Likewise, it may be harder to harvest non-embyronic stem cells, but you do not infringe on a person's right to life in order to do so.
