Some of the stuff you guys come up is amazing. I don't know what type of world you live in, but there are millions of people out there that had pasts that include abuse or other similar problems and most of them are not JW. Try again.
R6Laser
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Abusers and Abusees love the org...
by tall penguin inin my experience, those who become jw's as adults (not born in) could be described as abusers or abusees.
more often than not, they have unresolved issues of abuse from their past and gravitate to the structure of the org to re-experience the controlling, abusive environment of their past as the victim or the perpetrator.
from what i've seen, the more these past abuse issues are dealt with, the less of a hold the org has on a person.
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How DARE he?! This is why I'm still Single!!!
by stillAwitness inwell, i was dating this guy and its been a long time since i have even been with anyone that i thought was worthwhile.
i've been focusing on other things and with everything else going on with trying to gain my independance i just have not wanted to get caught up.
anyways, how dare the guy i was seeing call the whole jw mind-cult issue "stupid" when i tried to explain to him why i am the way i am (awful social skills, the simple excitement from just being around a new scene, etc.
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R6Laser
LOL! This is what happens when we blame everything on the past. How about an idea, start taking responsibilities of your own actions. I'm tired of everyone here blaming everything on something so stupid. "I'm socially unaceptable because of being a JW". Well, guess what, it was your decision and your own fault for not having any social skills. When will we start realizing that following stupid ideas from men is our own fault. Most people don't give a rats ass about why we left the JW or why we think its a cult. I say the same thing and I did, why not think for yourself once and put blame were it belongs.
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Kingdom Halls and the no windows thing...
by ObservingTexan invery first post.
go easy on me!.
my question though is this.
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R6Laser
This issue comes up all of the time. Honestly let me tell you what I think. Most of us here as so into this "blame the WT for everything that happens and show that everything they do is stupid." Well braniac how many churches in general have windows, very few. Also saying that its because cost, paranoia or to keep them from looking outside is plain stupid. When I was still attending all the kingdom halls had windows. The regular one I was assigned to had windows on both sides of the building and they were always open during the meetings. So I don't buy the reasons most of you have mentioned. Maybe we're so bitter that everything they do we come up with a twist. Maybe we need to grow up and now that we're out of their grasp live our own lives and stop going by what someone esle mentions from the platform. It seems that most posts in this forum are about stupid and petty things that anyone in the world would do, but since its coming from a JW it has to be the worst thing ever.
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The warnings were TRUE
by unique1 inyou know all the myspace.com warnings that were on here about elders on a witch hunt searching for active jw's blogs and using them against them?
well the elders didn't search but an old aquaintenance did.
she was disfellowshipped for her blogs concerning all the casual sex she was having.
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R6Laser
Sorry to say this, but this was all your fault. Why blame someone for reading a post on the internet that you actually made public. You don't have to be a JW to know how stupid this is. Anyone out there with senses would see how dumb this was. If you don't want your stuff to be read by people who have no access than make it private access only.
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My next radio interview... guess what I'll be talking about...
by Bryan inmy next radio interview will be december 23, 1pm eastern.
i will be interviewed by dan foxx of wmuz am radio in detroit, mi.
it's only a 30 minute interview, but i feel like talking about blood!
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R6Laser
Hopefully it won't be as useless as the one interview that came in the Mancow morning show.
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Did The Watchtower Society Decieve You Enough To Sue Them???
by minimus indid they really misrepresent anything to you that you could sue for?
everyone knows how they take quotes out of context.
do you personally have a valid reason to sue the society??
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R6Laser
If anything someone should sue us for letting other people run our lives. How about that?
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GAGS I HAVE PROUDLY PULLED ON JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES :)
by Nate Merit inin 1984 (shudder!
) my bud mark smith and i picketed the kingdom hall in ann arbor, michigan.
our signs had a watchtower drawn on them and said 'this religion is a snare and a racket!
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"Individuals all have their own way of recovering from depression or effects from cults life aversities etc. Nate's way of recovering was in a way rebellion, revenge on what they did. If someone raped your daughter, would you not want to go back and bash the guy up? or take him to court, or just stand there and say "well its in the past, even if the effects stand and my daugher is pregnent. When you are phycologically harmed you react in a more abnormal way, even to the average Joe may think "oh your an Idiot for the way you behaved!" It may look like that, but you need the "wisdom" to understand what the person is going through. An example of this "wisdom" is imagine this. A Father and his children go to a local cafe, the father sits down and reads the newspaper, his children run around like lunatics messing everything up and flipping chairs over... (kids about, 8 years old) The father did not react, he just sat there and continued on with the newspaper. The people got slightly agitated and wondered why the Father was not doing anything... Finally a person who is sitting next to the Dad asks "Your kids are messing everything up, arn't you gonna do something about it?" *right now you would think the Dad is just crazy not doing anythign about it and the kids are immature etc.* The Dad then softly says "I'm sorry, my wife just died, the kids just lost their mother" Finally you see it from a different angle, kids that age would not know how to handle such a life issue properly and that would be their reaction. You gain this "Wisdom" and you understand from a different perspective not first impression. So weather its like this with Nate I don't know... There does need to be limits e.g. pretending to be the minister from a methodist church... but if thats his way of recovering and if thats his reaction then give him a break... Evanescence" Still a sorry ass excuse.
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GAGS I HAVE PROUDLY PULLED ON JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES :)
by Nate Merit inin 1984 (shudder!
) my bud mark smith and i picketed the kingdom hall in ann arbor, michigan.
our signs had a watchtower drawn on them and said 'this religion is a snare and a racket!
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R6Laser
"I was DFed back during the 1975;era, and theit DFing me plunged me into a wordl of drugs, alcohol, depression, and suicide attempts. It took me over a decade of counseling to get over it. " What a sorry excuse.
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Are there any bikers out there ???
by bull01lay inhow many of you are ex jw bikers ??
i remember it was frowned upon when i had a bike - risking life and limb on english roads didn't go down too well with some of the more conservative elders.. what kind of bike do you ride ?.
me, i ride a honda goldwing, gl1500 sem - american import.
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R6Laser
I have a Yamaha R6, hence the name r6laser. I bought it back when I was still attending the KH and there was no uproar from anyone. I'm thinking most here play it up too much.
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The Watchtower's Unbalanced View of the Internet
by VM44 inin articles concerning the internet, some of which have been titled "a balanced view of the internet", the watchtower devotes the first paragraph or two to the benefits that the internet offers and has provided.
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then for the rest of the article they go on and on about the dangers and evils of the internet.. they have been consistent in writing in this manner in all the articles they have written concerning the internet.. can the watchtower itself truly be said to have a "balanced" view of the internet?.
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R6Laser
R6 - The other thing that cannot be overlooked are the comments that are made at the meeting discussions of these magazines. I remember about 2 1/2 years ago at a WT study discussing the internet someone commenting that "even off" viruses and demons could enter your computer. Needless to say, I rolled my eyes at the comment - but NO ONE corrected this person's viewpoint and I'm sure there are those who left the meeting believing this hogwash!
If that comment would've been made in my KH when I was attending I would personally get up and slap that person back to reality.Even so my point still stands, just because someone who has no knowledge on the internet raises his hand in the meetings and comments making ridiculous statements it doesn't make it true. You see most people in the KH giving their comments are only giving their own views on the subject which most of the time they have no knowledge. I remember little kids and teenagers and old people commenting and their comments were the most furthest thing from the truth. I'm not going to beleive someone sitting in the audience who's giving a comment and take it as gospel. That's ridiculous.