Posts by Honesty

the made contact through my aunt who is still 'in' - as in she has faded but is not disfellowshipped and will pop to a meeting now and again - she does this for my grans' sake.. the contact was from my aunt and uncle (he's an elder) these were the 2 witnesses used against me in my judicial case.

they contacted my aunt and said to forward the message onto us.

Honesty

Are we not already dead to them? Yes.

Have we not been labeled apostate by them? Yes.

Have we not been shunned by them? Yes.

Do you owe them any assistance? No.

Let them take care of their own.

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So after the blow out between my old JW buddy and I, it's back to "normal"

by wha happened? in

a friend of mine and i had a huge blow out about the jw religion.

he and i were friends before either one of us were jw's.

in fact, i took him to his first meeting.

Honesty

At least he's still talking with you, wha happened? which is more than I can say for a former

friend of over 30 years.

He and I were friends before either one of us were baptized.

I had a similar experience about blood with him.

It was the last time we talked, almost 10 years ago.

He said that it didn't matter if JW's die for refusing blood because

Jehoobie will resurrect them anyway.

I just bit my tongue and shook my head.

You just can't fix stupidity.

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Interesting conversation

by Freeof1914 in

as some of you know several weeks ago i was disfellowshipped for several reasons, but primarily my thoughts on the organization.

last night i had a very interesting conversations with my wife after she came back from the meeting and several things jumped out at me that made see even more clearly how sick this religion is.

first of all, several months ago we attended a wedding of a friend.

Honesty

No more sex for Freeof1914.

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A new DVD for 2013: The Return of the Prodigal Son

by Oubliette in

in another thread, what's new for 2013 - lo nuevo de 2013, jwn member, oppostate, posted news of dc releases at this year's district conventions.

among the releases was this: .

a new dvd for 2013: the return of the prodigal son.

Honesty

Just keeping it real.

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What happens before a Judicial Committee?

by jw07 in

i can't get into much detail, but i might have been caught doing something natural and fun that the gb would have a fit over.

(i'm not sure at this point if i was seen).

the elders have called a meeting of the entire body tonight, which is strange since they usually meet on weekends.. i've been worrying and sweating like crazy since then, which i think is the programmed jw guilt switch in my mind going off like crazy.. what i want to know is:.

Honesty

What happens before a Judicial Committee?

Someone commits a sin that may turn out not to be a sin a few years from now.

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A new DVD for 2013: The Return of the Prodigal Son

by Oubliette in

in another thread, what's new for 2013 - lo nuevo de 2013, jwn member, oppostate, posted news of dc releases at this year's district conventions.

among the releases was this: .

a new dvd for 2013: the return of the prodigal son.

Honesty

The following is a parable about the "JW Prodigal Son"

The young JW said to one of the elders, "Elder, I have doubts about the Governing Body." So the elder convened a judicial committee and they disfellowshipped him.

Not long after that, the younger JW was not allowed to talk to his JW family anymore and had to move out of their home. The job he had with another JW was soon terminated and he was left on his own. Since he had no skills—his religion wouldn't allow him any higher education—and he had no friends—his religion didn't allow him to associate with anyone who wasn't a JW—he began to think back on what he had before. Although he did not really believe in the religion, he decided he would return so at least he could once again associate with people, have employment, and feel as though he was not abandoned.

When he confessed the error of his ways, the young JW said to the elder, "Elder, I have sinned against the Watchtower and against the governing body. I am no longer worthy to be called a JW," only then was he allowed to return to the meetings in the hope of rejoining his family and former so-called friends. He could not talk to anyone except for the spiritually strong elders and his father who now began to study with him even though he had heard the same stuff hundreds of times before. He played the game and one day was reinstated to the joy of everyone who could now talk to him and tell him them missed him even though he was there all the time.

The other young JW's who had continued with their monotonous routine of Watchtower worship while he was gone looked scornfully at the returnee because he had not had to do all of the service they did. They kept their distance from him as they viewed him as still contaminated and would never fully be one of them again.

The young JW slowly worked his way back to earning his privileges. His going through the motions of being in the "truth" was enough to satisfy his family and the elders.

Now he frequents Internet sites to find support for his situation because he knows the Watchtower is a lie but he still wants to associate with his family.

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Quick update on sharing TTATT with my friend

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

yesterday morning i got a message from my friend, the one i shared ttatt with last week and she wanted to meet for coffee.

this is the story/friend i'm referring to http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/251494/1/ha-take-that-watchtower-one-less-borg-for-you.. i was really nervous because since our initial visit she had told me that two of her other jw friends wanted to talk to me.

after a little more prodding she admitted that her friends didn't accept what their own wt said about god's name and they wanted to talk to me to "bring me back to the truth.".

Honesty

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w56 10/1 p.591 par.20 Marriage Obligations and Divorce

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Sodomy (or the unnatural intercourse of one male with another male as with a female), Lesbianism (or the homosexual relations between women), and bestiality (or the unnatural sexual relations by man or woman with an animal) are not Scriptural grounds for divorce. They are filthy, they are unclean, and God’s law to Israel condemned to death those committing such misdeeds, thus drastically putting these out of God’s congregation. But such acts are not adultery with the opposite sex, making the unclean person one flesh with another of the opposite sex. (Rom. 1:26-32) Yet there is a penalty of disfellowshiping attached to them. They will keep a Christian out of the heavenly kingdom and out of God’s new world, and that means being destroyed like beasts from all future life. "The minding of the flesh means death," it "means enmity with God, for it is not under subjection to the law of God, nor, in fact, can it be. So those who are in harmony with the flesh cannot please God." They cannot gain the prize of everlasting life from him. (Rom. 8:6-8; 1 Cor. 6:9, 10; Gal. 5:19-21) Such filthy things by a mate may make life unbearable for the clean married person and are grounds for separation only, though some courts grant a divorce on such grounds. Such separation does not free one to remarry and enter thus into adultery. Writes Paul: "To the married people I give instructions, yet not I but the Lord, that a wife should not depart from her husband; but if she should actually depart, let her remain single or else make up again with her husband; and a husband should not leave his wife." (1 Cor. 7:10, 11, NW) Only if one of the separated couple committed adultery under the stress of the separation would there be Scriptural basis for the innocent to procure a divorce and be free to remarry.