Posts by Honesty

"jws leaders need to mandate elder bodies to uniformly report abuse to the authorities no matter what jurisdiction; prohibit elders from being involved in any investigative process to decide guilt or innocence in place of the authorities; do away with the two-witness rule to determine, as if they were magistrates, guilt or innocence of someone accused; prohibit so-called repentant molesters from engaging in the door-to-door ministry, and always inform the congregation if a convicted or confessed molester is meeting with them.

" -barbara anderson .

this is another reason why the watchtower society doesn't require that the elders uniformly report abuse to the authorities no matter what jurisdiction.

Honesty

Prime is one of the JW PR reps from the TOPIX JW forum.

Of course, the 'Prime' here is not to be confused with the topix poster called 'Prime.'

Right.

I forget what online handle she is currently using on TOPIX.

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what i have realized studying JWs,the bitter truth

by spirituk in

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well, i have been studying jws religion ,my cousin is a jw and i have visited him a lot of times.i have watched his way of living and things like that.i have been at the district convention last week.i read so many things from both sides.i came to the conclusion that if someone believes god exists then it is so easy and he should be a jehovah's witness.sadly its true and that is why so many people are and every year they baptised even more.. stories about jws reducing?wrong.. facing problems?

false.. everybody in the convention had an ipad ,iphones etc with the bible in it.

+ wifi .

Honesty

spirituk, why don't you become a Jehovah's Witness just for the social aspect of it?

You will enjoy a wide variety of friendships and probably will be invited to many JW social functions, commonly called "Get Togethers" and you will be bombarded with even more invitations if you are a single male.

If you do join the group, come back in 20 years and let us know how it is working out for you.

Personally...

You really don't want to know the reality of being a JW so I will not bore you with the sordid details that would undoubtedly send you into a fit of depression from which you may never recover from.

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Were U Surprised To Learn Anything About The Witnesses That U Didn't Know??

by minimus in

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when i was a kid, i researched the origins of the religion and realized that the witnesses were an offshoot of adventism.....we're you surprised to learn something about the witnesses that you didn't realize?.

Honesty

I was surprised to learn that the majority of JW's in responsible positions (BO, DO, CO elder, ministerial servant) care more about the Watchtower Society's image than they do about truth, morals, honesty and spiritual values.

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Open letter Re: Mr. Bowen, Mrs. Anderson

by Prime in

"jws leaders need to mandate elder bodies to uniformly report abuse to the authorities no matter what jurisdiction; prohibit elders from being involved in any investigative process to decide guilt or innocence in place of the authorities; do away with the two-witness rule to determine, as if they were magistrates, guilt or innocence of someone accused; prohibit so-called repentant molesters from engaging in the door-to-door ministry, and always inform the congregation if a convicted or confessed molester is meeting with them.

" -barbara anderson .

this is another reason why the watchtower society doesn't require that the elders uniformly report abuse to the authorities no matter what jurisdiction.

Honesty

Prime is one of the JW PR reps from the TOPIX JW forum.

Most of us ignore him over there because of posts similar to her "open letter" to Bill Bowen and Barb Anderson.

The majority of former JW's on TOPIX consider her to be a fruitcake who is 2 french fries short of a McDonald's Happy Meal.

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Introduction and a note on several posts here

by LizO in

hey people,.

as for myself, after extensive study i have concluded that it's not possible for me to trust the bible and so i am not active anymore.

however, let me please add something to the discussions here:.

Honesty

LizO, can you list some of your specific grievances relating to:

- bad intentions

- trying to squeeze money for personal interests

- cruelty

- trying to mind-control

Thank you.

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Now that I am out, which bible should i read? Feeling free at last!

by Freethinking76 in

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so, now that i am out for good, which bible should i read?

there is no way i will read the wt one..so i still want to have a relationship with god but don't know how to choose a bible.

it is very hard to dewired yourself and ,sometimes i feel that i don't have a relationship with him.the what ifs come and go still.last night i was up all night reading and researching , can't shake off the shock still to know ttatt.

Honesty

Try some of the bibles on this site:

http://classic.studylight.org/

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Can this logic be refuted?

by notsurewheretogo in

i was an elder until march 2012 until i resigned.

i then stopped going to meetings in october 2012 and have enjoyed 9 months of freedom that i have found to be jouful!

i loved learning ttatt and sites like this and jwfacts.com have been excellent.. i told the elders that i needed a break and that they should not contact me unless it was a social visit and true to their word they have done that.

Honesty

notsurewheretogo , when it comes to defending the Watchtower Society THERE ARE NO SINCERE ELDERS.

I have known at least 100 elders and they all will defend the Watchtower Society even if it means sending both of their grandmothers down the river.

But hey, it's your life and if you really don't believe they will throw you into the trash can faster than Caleb threw Sparlock the Warrior Wizard then procced with your plans.

Just remember, we told you so.

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Disassociating

by Godsendconspirator in

hey guys.

don't really post here much, mostly just lurk around.

so here's just backstory: in 2012, after about half a year of research i decided to leave the organization.

Honesty

Back in 2004 they actually announced if you had been disfellowshiped or had disassociated. Now, they announce that you are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

I didn't send them a DA letter in 2004 when I decided that I wanted no more of their hypocritical behavior. I just told the 2 elders that were investigating me to see if I harbored any apostate ideas that by affiliating with the UN the Watchtower Society had turned apostate and I didn't associate with apostate religious organizations. I ended the telephone interrogation (I refused to meet with them in person so one of them called while he had the other one on conference call) by hanging up on them. 3 days later I received a phone call from another JW from another hall asking why I had DA'd.

The Watchtower elders will not read your DA letter other than to skim over it looking for the sentence where you tell them you quit. They don't give a rat's ass about truth or logic or honesty because they drink the WT koolaid by the gallon.

I suggest that you send your DA letter to the entire congregation and all your JW friends.

That will do more good than sending it to a group of men who care only about protecting the mother organization.