Posts by rebel8

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I had a funny feeling he was a Witness... and now I need help.

by noontide in

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im in a bit of a bind and im not quite sure what (if anything) i can do about it.

i was recently hired as a business consultant for a rather large company.

the company that hired me mentioned that they are concerned about a certain department and the way its being run, as this department affects every other department in the company.

rebel8

Don't mention the religion at all. It is not pertinent to your job. Stick to behaviors.

Stick to performance and work conduct.

Work conduct--
-Is he following company rules?
-Is he preaching to people in a manner that violates policy?

Performance--
-As a salaried employee, attendance tracking is irrelvant. Not getting his job done is. Leaving when things need to be done, habitually, is a big issue.
-Is he prepared and productive?
-Does he prioritize and lead effectively?
-Is he competent? Does he possess the knowledge and skills needed to perform his job adequately?
-Does he manage his staff properly?

Quirks and weirdness by themselves are not a reason that makes someone unsuccessful, as you know. You need to find out what else it is and articulate it. Put yourself in the employee's shoes and ask yourself, if my director said/did that to me, how would that affect my ability and motivation to perform?

Once I had a manager who "didn't mesh well with her subordinates", so her boss made her take us all out to lunch. Then the boss called us each privately afterwards to find out how it went, and we gave direct quotes from the manager, said during lunch. It was the nail in her coffin. This woman had major personality issues and couldn't act normal. You could suggest that...

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Yoga

by FL_Panthers in

one elder in my cong told me that this is a df offense?

is this true?

can yoga be practised?.

rebel8

Yoga is a science?

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

rebel8

I would imagine we're talking about situations where the child needs blood soon, but not necessarily immediately.

Yes. Surgeries, high risk births, etc.

My understanding is that, at least in most of the U.S., if a child needs an emergency transfusion due to being in an automible accident, they get it. Now. The squawking of their cult-member parents is just an annoying bit of background noise in the ER.

What now?! That's illegal, if the parents of a minor child are cognizant, present and expressed their decisions. In all the hospitals I've worked in/with, I've never heard of random ED staff overriding parental decisions in the manner you described. Shudder, I hope that's not really happening. Good lord. (I mean, good for the jw kids, bad for medical ethics.)

http://virtualmentor.ama-assn.org/2006/10/hlaw1-0610.html

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

rebel8

om, the parents are encouraging the physicians to get a court order by making that statement.

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

rebel8

OTOH, total silence is often viewed as consent/lack of disagreement/acquiescence. Those of us with near death experiences, serious abuse, etc. tend to NOT want anyone to be confused--we do NOT agree, we do NOT acquiesce, what they did in the past, and are now doing, is NOT ok.

In order to reduce the size and impact of this cult, it must be socially unacceptable to participate.

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

rebel8

there was a time when parents were "encouraged" to kidnap their children out of the hospital if there was a "danger" that a blood transfusion would be given. The thought was if you didn't at least try to do this you were blood guilty.

Was that in writing or just a local situation ... Maybe in the old publication "Blood Medicine and the law of God" (right title ?)

I don't remember the kidnapping per se, but I know I was subject to practice drills on tricking healthcare providers. These practice drills were done regularly by the elders and my jw parent. Lie to the school nurse about how much blood you've lost. Go to different ERs each time. Lie to the hospital about how much blood you've lost. Pretend you're not ready to faint. Pinch your cheeks and wear opaque nail polish to make anemia less apparent. If forced to have a transfusion, distract the staff and pull it out once they leave the room. Sneak out of the hospital and find a payphone; call home or elders (phone #s memorized as part of drill).

Not doing these things was likened to consent, the same as if a rape victim did not say no.

I definitely was not lucky enough to have a wink, wink parent.

The doctor I mentioned earlier said the HLC would come and speak to them regularly, reviewing what procedures and products are ok for the dubs to take, including not interrupting the blood flow if outside the body, "and we'd just roll our eyes".

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

rebel8

Recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.

Yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing. Interesting.

I'm surprised the Thought Police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood.

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WTS buys £1,000,000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK

by Simon in

shower room.

office.

games room.

rebel8

Why would a facility be needed at all to accomplish this task? Can't the translators work at home using their computers and meet in person in their living rooms if needed?

This is reminding me of Jim & Tammy Faye Baker, and the wt's criticism of it.

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

jw
friends

xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

rebel8

Welcome.

well, a bit crazy. The sheer number of XJW videos made suggests maybe there is something compulsive

Agreed.

They seem proud when one of their minions acts out, like giving the middle finger at a KH or shouting at JWs on the street. It's kind of embarrassing.

Yep it is. After a brief period of venting one's anger, a normal person can move away from such behavior (if ever engaging in it in the first place). Ventilation is healthy, and so is anger, as long as it doesn't become a problem in itself. (I wrote about that in a book...)

Thing is, people are not always self aware or honest with themselves. Acting out by protest isn't always to "help people out of the cult"--I suspect many times it's an act to help oneself deal with anger, get revenge, etc.

If that wasn't true, then most of these types would be intersted in prevention. It's obviously much, much more effective in helping others. But almost no one is interested in that, as far as I can tell. And that says something about true motives.

It's dangerous to urge emotionally troubled people to act out and exploit their actions to get attention.

Yep. But many human beings tend toward bullying, and bullying by proxy. xjws are not different from the rest.

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I'm a cannibal

by Zoos in

the doctor used cadaver bone to fix my spine.

i understand that makes me a cannibal in watchtower land.. .

"it's feeding.

rebel8

Have you cannibalized another human for your own selfish healthcare like me?

No, but I'm a vampire, according to the dubs. The "feeding on" thing has been applied to me.

Pretty disgusting religion.

A person was kind enough to donate life to us. That's a beautiful thing. It's not right of them to demonize something so good and right.

yes it is SO much better

Good for you. That's all you need to think about. Forget the idiots.