I have posted about this as well, but more from the perspective of how to publicize and operationalize this violation to the advantage of the victims.
But The Universal Declaration of Human Rightsis not a law.
Posts by rebel8
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17Why is shunning NOT a violation of Nat'l and Int'l law?
by Zoos ini was looking at the universal declaration of human rights posted at un.org and also the description of what constitutes a violation of religious freedom at uslegal.com .. .
according to the declaration of human rights:.
article 18.. everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink
by rebel8 inrecently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.
interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..
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rebel8
I have been flat told "we don't disfellowship for that anymore", by a circuit overseer. Of course the caveat is if it is well known or the person flaunts it.....but basically you can do it, and its like don't ask don't tell.
But they consider you as having disassociated yourself by your action, and therefore you're fully shunned. Correct? Potayto, potahto.
And what's that other post, "jehoopla will hold them accountable, not you". That makes me angry. I was told I'd be responsible if blood was forced on me, and I was a child. I had to scream, say NO, physically fight back, and try to escape, just as a rape victim had to, in order to not be blamed. And even if I did all those things, I was told I'd still be considered damaged goods and no one would want to marry me. (Which is why I was totally freaked out when they said there'd be no marriage in the New System...because I'd be forever a virgin...no one to love...ever. Just for being born with a genetic disorder.)
Dubs today, they got it easier.
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Birthday celebration/participation
by Zana inmy wife is considering to let our kids participate, maybe even celebrate their own birthdays.
she says what can be so bad about just giving a little kid (who doesn't yet understand the bible) a day full of joy and happiness?
she herself actually delayed her own baptism as a teenager in order to celebrate one more birthday.
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rebel8
Job celebrated his bday. it's in the bible.
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Illuminati End-Times Deviled Eggs
by Nathan Natas ini never cease to be impressed by the clear thinking and iron-clad logic of "true buhlevers".
it almost made me writhe with desperation because i am an atheist.
almost... but actually i'm writhing with laughter.. .
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rebel8
Brother Nathan, that is just wrong. It's called Miracle Whip. That means it's okey-dokey.
Wow, that guy is really "confident". Calling himself the Third Eagle of Revelation or whatever. (If I was not lazy, I'd make a t-shirt saying, "I'm the 3rd Eagle of Revelation, Don't Eat Deviled Eggs," with a graphic similar to One Wolf Three Moons.
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Is it selfish to enjoy life?
by new hope and happiness ini mean there are some great debates running on this forum :-.
what is spirit exactly?.
what is love?.
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rebel8
If there is a creator(s) and she/he/they make themselves known to you one day, he will be glad you enjoyed his gift (life).
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Favorite Big Bang Character?
by snowbird in#1 rajesh koothrappali.
#2 amy farrah fowler.
rajesh because he's got sheldon's number.. amy because she reminds me so much of me.. when i was in school, i was never part of the "in" crowd.. i was viewed as weird and nerdish.. lol..
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rebel8
Amy reminds me of myself the most. Which is why I like Sheldon.
Tears in the frosting? Too close to home.
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How do you shut your mind down so you can get a good night sleep???
by jam inthe more i learn about jw's the harder it is.
to sleep at night.
the wife hit the pillow and within 5 min.. she is snoring.
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rebel8
Hibiscus tea, lavendar vanilla wax melt, fan and relaxing music. Whatever you do, do the same routine every night. Your body will learn the routine and know when you do it, it's time to sleep.
Teach yourself some relaxation techniques. They work.
Alcohol disturbs sleep.
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I am on the edge of a freak out ..... I think???
by DATA-DOG inso the rc really sucked, but i made it through.
the propaganda was mind blowing.
i don't know if the crap will be available on the official website or not, but hopefully it gets leaked somehow.
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rebel8
When I was a counselor & patients would say, "I can't stand it," I would say, "Ok. Don't stand it. What now?"
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Was Hitler atheist?
by zound ini've heard that hitler did what he did in the name of atheism from various theists - or at least that he was an atheist.
i wasn't sure about it, but found this quote today.
thoughts?.
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rebel8
OP, why do you ask?
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800 Infant Bodies Found in a Septic Tank at Roman Catholic Children's Home
by cofty in796 infant skeletons have been found discarded in a septic tank at the former mother and baby home run by the catholic church in ireland between 1925 and 1961.. unwed mothers were sent these "magdelene asylums" to be treated like criminals.
their babies - if they survived - were taken from them.
if they did not survive their bodies were thrown into a septic tank and forgotton.
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rebel8
Ok, so the septic tank thing is still unverified, and the person originally reporting it is claiming it's being exaggerated.