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  What laws are on your side (in the U.S.) so you can leave quietly

  by oppostate in

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  2. friends

  in another topic "just quit quietly - the law is on your side" there was a lot of discussion about how to leave quietly without getting tagged publicly as "no longer a jw".

  here are some legal cases that could be used to show support for leaving quietly.. you have to first send a letter saying you're leaving that specific congregation, and that you don't want them to keep records of you.. if the boe says anything against you here are some court cases that make precedent for bringing a suit against them:.

  baugh v. thomas (1970).

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  Very interesting. I have changed my views a bit after reading that article.

  I've pretty much believed it's best to not recognize their authority by resigning--just walk away. And that's probably still the best thing to do if you don't have the money that justice costs.

  If you can afford justice, then perhaps you could resign via a registered letter citing these cases and stating your expectations as a former member, effective immediately.

  These people really have no power, just the mental power we give them. Just stop going, walk away.

  I see your point, but people's businesses, marriages, friendships and jobs can be harmed, as well as their reputation and standing in the community, by shunning, badmouthing, etc. They have the power to do a lot of harm. It would be nice for them to stop behaving that way.
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  Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.

  one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.

  now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.

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  rebel8

  Victims aren't always compensated. I think people in other countries tend to be told our justice system depends upon lawsuits, but that's not true. There's criminal courts too.

  People who are angry probably want the perps to be held accountable. Perhaps being given money that requires the victim to keep quiet to protect perp's reputation makes them more angry. I can't say I blame them. Sometimes they were coerced into silence after the crime, so it could feel like the same thing is happening again.

  wts, as a religion that claims to be god's one and only true channel, with rules about keeping the congregation clean, should be transparent. They used to practically announce reasons why they were dfing individuals right from the platform--the only reason they stopped that is probably because someone sued them for defamation (Barb Anderson?). That's their doctrine--we didn't make that, they did. Yet here they are doing the opposite of what they teach and practice otherwise. Hypocritical. Again, I don't blame anyone for pointing that out.
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  Using New JW.ORG Merchandise to Share the Good News, t-shirts and painted JW.org toe nails!

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are approved methods of preaching the good news about jw.org in style!.

  caleb and his single mammy, tired of your child losing notes to his teacher, pin that note with a friendly, lively jw.org caleb and mommy button for a small fee!

  https://www.pinterest.com/pin/356206651751072594/ with our rich hertigage of mixing organization with the skills of a saleman you knew this was bound to happen.. .

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  rebel8

  Tacky.

  I wonder if some dubs will actually believe this is a good witness, or will count it on their time sheets. "10 people commented on my toenails Saturday,so I can count my time. Then next month when I get my toenails done again, I'll count the manicurist as a return visits or whatever."
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  Graduation and Pinning

  by sooner7nc in

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  giving my speech.

  being pinned by my son.. .

  the best day ever.. .

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  rebel8

  congratulations!

  what is pinning?
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  Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

  by cultBgone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

  i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

  did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

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  rebel8

  People telling me such things as we actually evolved and the flood is not real was the main thing. I was not allowed to be exposed to any disconfirming information, and was required to leave the room when such concepts were taught in school. Had no one ever told me that, I wouldn't have known those fundamental things were false.

  I was always skeptical and had a hard time believing the fairy tales, but I actually believed evolution was obviously false and the flood was obviously true, until others told me otherwise.
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  What Will U Spend For XMas This Year?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think most exjws are frugal when it comes to xmas.

  what is your budget for gift giving?.

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  rebel8

  Around $500, which does not include what my husband spends, party clothes, and holiday food.

  I try not to buy useless things. Gift cards to favorite restaurants that I know will be used, etc.
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  Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

  but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

  i was talking to a jw last night.

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  rebel8

  The word "attractive" does not necessarily mean only physical appearance.
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  Bob Mackey - often used voice - dies

  by SadElder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  bob mackey died in thursday in tampa, florida we're told.

  he had been hospitaised for some months.

  he was preceded in death by brother weldon and sister velma and her husband long time traveling fellow bruce giffin.. bob was used often by the watchtower for various voiceovers and a number of the recorded bible books.. .

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  rebel8

  I wonder if the name sounds familiar because Bob Mackie is a famous clothing designer.
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  can an unhappy married woman vent?

  by sowhatnow in

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  i continue to be saddened by the fact that i am married to such a selfish man.. i want to know if i am the only wife who has no say when it comes to using the house she lives in for activities including other people.. .

  let me explain.. yesterday my daugher who is 35 got a new puppy for my grandaughter who is 13. today my daughter and son in law are going to help my uncle at a job, and my granddaughter wanted to spend the day here, my daugher said shed bring her and the puppy over, i laughed and said 'your dad wont have that, ill have to go to your house'.. after all it will 'upset' the 2 cats they will hide all day [like they do anytime someone including my grandchild is in my home] .. i already knew that he would not like it if she brought the puppy over, [weve had dogs so its not like he hates them].

  he doesnt care if his grandaughter would have enjoyed playing with the puppy over grandmas house, where she likes to be for a change, and that fact that id like to see what my cats would do when they saw a dog for the first time in thier lives.. maybe id have liked to play with the puppy .. when i said to my husband that my daughter said she wanted tp bring them over he said.

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  I get no pleasure out of this life

  HONEY. You are depressed, which is a medical condition (despite the cause). See a doctor.

  After that, therapy could help you sort this out. Even if you don't want to leave him, a professional can help you figure out how to get to the point where you have built a life worth living.

  "It's too late" is not true.
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  HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

  special, private language).

  jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

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  rebel8

  oops I didn't notice the word "discarded" in the OP