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  Status of people shunned before rule change?

  by rebel8 in

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  back in the early 1980s, some congregations were "disassociating" unbaptized people who committed alleged disfellowshipping offenses and weren't repentant.

  it was announced from the platform in the same way, "so and so is disassociated," followed by 1 scripture about shunning and another about the specific sin that person had committed.

  the ritual shunning was exactly the same as dfing.

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  Back in the early 1980s, some congregations were "disassociating" unbaptized people who committed alleged disfellowshipping offenses and weren't repentant. It was announced from the platform in the same way, "So and so is disassociated," followed by 1 scripture about shunning and another about the specific sin that person had committed. The ritual shunning was exactly the same as dfing. So actually there was no difference between df and da except a few letters.

  In my congregation, there was a rash of young people being "disassociated", as young as 13 years old, disassociated for things like smoking pot and fornication. And their sins were pretty much announced.

  So then there was some sort of clarification given that disassociating is something  a person does to himself while dfing is something the congregation does to him.  Then they stopped the aforementioned practice.

  
  So my question is, what is the status now of the people erroneously shunned back then? Are they just considered inactive? Can dubs speak to them?  Thanks
  
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  Festivus - Revisited

  by berrygerry in

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  i have been a devout promoter for many years.. sadly, today, of all days, i was forced to re-examine some of the practices involved with the celebration of this holiday.. i was leaving a store, and was stunned to see a festivus pole struck down and abandoned.obviously, this must have taken place at night, and the culprits were hunting poles without a license or permit, and were interrupted at the last moment, and then fled.what a senseless slaughter!how often is this happening?.

  and then, i got to thinking.how many festivus poles are left outside - vulnerable?how many of these poles then wander the neighbourhood in search of prospective mates?currently, in my city, there are no by-laws regulating pole mating behaviour.. and poles being poles, baby poles are thereby brought into this world, and tragically abandoned (and in winter, no less).is there a worse sound than a pole cub mewling for its mother?

  i think not.. so, festivus people, if you keep your poles outside, please, please, at least have them spayed or neutered.. happy festivus!.

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  ROFL!
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  Big Eyes Movie Article

  by jerryjax99 in

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  hey everyone, i am new here to the site and wanted to share this article along with a personal experience with her.. .

  http://national.deseretnews.com/article/3089/the-real-life-artist-portrayed-in-big-eyes-credits-her-newfound-faith-for-helping-her-take-a-stand.html.

  i was able to meet margaret keane in pittsburgh, pa at the corapolis congregation back around 2002 or so.

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  Welcome to the forum.

  Am I the only one who finds the story suspect? She says the reason she came forward is because dubs don't lie.

  Look, I'm all for a domestic violence survivor standing up for herself and taking credit for her own work.

  But...to credit dubs seems so disingenuous. It's just a reason to credit the society where credit is NOT due, and to use the media to witness to others. Nothing more.

  • Dubs do not believe in, or teach, that women should oppose men. Yeah, I know he was an evil nonbeliever and all that, but those of you who've been in since the 70s or before must admit there is at least a covert discouragement of this type of behavior. Even for nonbelievers. I have never seen or heard any indication the society encourages women to stand up for themselves in this sort of situation.
  • Dubs do not believe in notoriety, putting oneself in a place of fame or adoration, etc. Jesus, we couldn't even say the word 'adorable' because of it. It's creature worship according to their doctrine. I know of exactly zero teachings saying you should speak out to get credit for your work in this situation.

  
  

  She's just using the society as a prop here. JMHO
  
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  It's imminent now.

  by rebel8 in

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  no, not armageddon, silly.

  santa claus.. http://www.noradsanta.org/.

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  Well people, how'd ya make out? Inquiring minds want to know.

  Haven't opened any gifts yet myself. It's still early here and mr. rebel8 is nestled all snug in his bed, while visions of sugar-plums dance in his head.
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  Please post new forum feedback or questions here

  by Simon in

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  well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

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  I emailed you earlier but now I was able to get in. Now I'm trying to update my email addy but I'm not receiving the confirmation email.
  

  
  

  Oh I think I figured it out. I have all emails with the word 'jehovah' blocked. lol. Got it now. Now where's the embarrassed smiley...
  
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  It's imminent now.

  by rebel8 in

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  no, not armageddon, silly.

  santa claus.. http://www.noradsanta.org/.

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  Back at ya, buddy! Health and happiness to you.

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  Santa's near Australia right now. Almost half a million gifts delivered so far!

  And Caleb is busy reading his Daily Text about why Christmas trees are evil.
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  It's imminent now.

  by rebel8 in

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  no, not armageddon, silly.

  santa claus.. http://www.noradsanta.org/.

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  Those stupid jw.org cartoons will never be serious competition for Santa.

  The tradition began in 1955 after a Colorado Springs-based Sears Roebuck & Co. advertisement misprinted the telephone number for children to call Santa. Instead of reaching Santa, the phone number put kids through to the CONAD Commander-in-Chief's operations "hotline." The Director of Operations at the time, Colonel Harry Shoup, had his staff check the radar for indications of Santa making his way south from the North Pole. Children who called were given updates on his location, and a tradition was born.

  In 1958, the governments of Canada and the United States created a bi-national air defense command for North America called the North American Aerospace Defense Command, also known as NORAD, which then took on the tradition of tracking Santa.

  

  Since that time, NORAD men, women, family and friends have selflessly volunteered their time to personally respond to phone calls and emails from children all around the world. In addition, we now track Santa using the internet. Millions of people who want to know Santa's whereabouts now visit the NORAD Tracks Santa® website.
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  "My Husband's Not Gay" New Show on TLC Channel

  by ShirleyW in

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  "my husband's not gay" a special airing on january 11 follows a group of mormon men who say they are happily married and attracted to their wives but are attracted to men also .

  whhaaaaattt !!!!.

  first of all don't mormons look down on the gay lifestyle, and they also shun members like jws do.. well, all i can say is i'm waiting for jw version of this show, if they're featuring mormons, the dubs must be next !.

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  IIRC they don't even call it homosexuality. They call it same-sex attraction to minimize the belief that one must act upon one's sexuality.
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  It's imminent now.

  by rebel8 in

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  no, not armageddon, silly.

  santa claus.. http://www.noradsanta.org/.

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  No, not Armageddon, silly. Santa Claus.

  http://www.noradsanta.org/

  
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  Could the allowance of blood fractions be curtailing the growth of the religion?

  by Apognophos in

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  2. medical

  so, imagine that you're just a regular joe who's not familiar with the witnesses and is looking for the answers to life, the universe, and everything.

  you hear a knock at your door.

  before long, you are studying with a jehovah's witness.

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  What the OP described happened to my family, except it was back when fractions weren't allowed (early 1970s).

  They don't tell you the worst things until you're mostly hooked. Manipulative.

  What is going through your mind at this point? Isn't just about anyone's BS Alarm liable to be going off at this point?

  What happened to my mother is, "But my daughter is hemophiliac and needs fractions weekly right now. She's almost died without it. I can't follow that teaching, knowing she's going to suffer and die." (Let's just remember that bleeding to death is slowly suffocating. It's not a quick or painless death.)

  Response from jw: several weeks of cult programming, resurrection to petting zoos, Abraham ready to sacrifice his son, the fact that both of us will be executed and permanently dead at jehoopla's hand for taking blood products, and fake medical facts about taking on the personality of the criminals who were donating blood.

  My mother suppressed her logic in favor of this thinking, because she was so eager to be in a group with strict, hard-to-follow rules so she could prove to god how much better she is than the Great Unwashed. She could have had her social status highly elevated if I had died one of the times she tried to sacrifice me.