Posts by rebel8

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Last nights meeting...

by DATA-DOG in

i know dubs are delusional.

i know dubs don't reason well.

i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

As I move further away from theWT.....

by Viviane in

i've, over the years, looked into many religions.

obviously, from those that have seen me post here, i've become an atheist simply because i couldn't find any reason to believe in god.

recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.

It's kind of like the Santa Claus myth. Each culture and generation added something to it. Before you know it, Coca Cola does an ad campaign with Santa wearing the same red in their product. Then Santa's always wearing red, and no one remembers that he wore anything else before.

Humans revise myths all the time as they gain momentum. They become a part of us and we forget how silly it all is.

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It's could've damn you! COULD'VE!! Not "could of". Aaaaaaargh!

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0cd2cocs.

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rebel8

My coworker inserted some comments into Excel cells. It's really cool. She said all you have to do to read them is click on the carrot.

Today I combinded several spreadsheets into one.

Does that make since?

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St John's wort

by wannaexit in

st john's wort is accepted by the medical literature for use in mild to moderate depression.

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if anybody is using it could you share your experiences with it?

rebel8

There are lots of free, safe things that help a sad mood. Have you tried these? Avoid alcohol and depressants, exercise, stop isolating yourself, start a project you enjoy and stick to doing a little bit daily, don't use tobacco, talk therapy, get enough sleep, meditate, eat healthy, laugh.

Fake it 'til ya make it. Do this stuff even if you don't feel like it, and your mood will lighten.

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Is my purpose to help, fail and suffer?

by TheLonelyOne in

hi folks im coming from far for many, for some maybe bit near.

life has been thought.

even though i'm only 27 pain and problems has been around since my first days.

rebel8

It's always disturbing to me when posters preach a new religion to people here. To me, it just mucks up the healing process, like taking Valium several times a day instead of drinking.

Anyway OP, help your friend. Lend a listening ear. Give him a hand up.

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My mother says I should just DA already.

by Julia Orwell in

cut the cord.

sever all ties.

start new.. and she's right.

rebel8

I've said this many times and I'll say it again.There are many ways to accomplish your goal without playing by their rules & validating their self-appointed authority over you. The notion that you need them to perform a mean religious ritual on you for you to feel better is preposterous really (sorry).

Closure?

-Block people from your email/phone/Facebook. Return mail. Don't answer the door and notify them not to trespass on your property.

-Do a little closure ceremony of your own--bury or burn magazines, write an unsent letter, etc.

-Announce yourself publicly as a non-jw. (Ex: tell coworkers, neighbors, Facebook, etc.)

Deprogram? Make a list of your fears and beliefs caused by being a jw, then systematically confront them. (I went to a church, went to a bar, befriended a homosexual, swore, celebrated holidays, got an education,etc.)

The biggest step is to FORGIVE and AGREE to ask help to FORGIVE when you can't on your own.

I am sorry but I could not disagree more. As a former behavioral health clinician, I know this to be totally untrue. This 'forgiveness' thing is a religious teaching, not something required for mental health.

Acceptance is needed. Moving on is needed.Those are the only aspects that affect mental health.

Forgiveness is separate from that--forgiveness means you're saying what happened is ok. Not only is that untrue in the case of jw/wts, it's unhealthy to pretend it's true.

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St John's wort

by wannaexit in

st john's wort is accepted by the medical literature for use in mild to moderate depression.

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if anybody is using it could you share your experiences with it?

rebel8

Are you sure you have mild depression?

I treated lots of folks in the psych hospital whose illness was greatly worsened after taking St. John's Wort. They probably would never have required hospitalization had they not taken it.

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Happy Australia Day

by Bungi Bill in

jw
friends

happy australia day to all here who reside in australia:.

- and for those who have actually got the day off, halve your luck!.

(yet again, i have drawn the short straw and am working today - oh, the joys of remote site fifo work!

rebel8

I'd be interested in hearing about this holiday.

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The Bible's approval of slavery (including Jesus)

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

how can there possibly be a reason for this?

smh.

i can't imagine how this is excusable..

rebel8

How can there possibly be a reason for this?

SMH. I can't imagine how this is excusable.

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JWs versus Scientology

by millie210 in

i have been discussing scientology with a friend who is reading dianetics by l. ron hubbard.. both groups are considered cults by many.. both have a policy of shunning members who leave.. so in your opinion, what are the similarities you find between them?.

what are the differences?.

is one group "worse"?.

rebel8

Scientology is suspected of murders, and IIRC there is a very credible allegation of infiltrating the IRS to manipulate taxation of the church.

They eschew all medical treatment, not just cherry picking like the dubs. They're accused of not allowing women to make noise during labor and not allowing medications at all.

If these things are true, I can't see how dubbery is more dangerous than that. And that's even from my perspective. (Obviously I personally know jwism is very dangerous.)

Lisa McPherson's memorial was vandalized. I don't think that happens an awful lot at the hand of dubs (I'm nauseated from saying anything positive about the dubs--actually I am just saying they're only slightly less soiled than the darkest of all).

Oh, and they're still at it.