just wondering if anyone still does not celebrate xmas since leaving jws.....or like me do you think"to hell with it", and join in the festivities.
if you do celebrate it, do you still have pangs of guilt for celebrating this "pagan" festival???.
chukky.
Just wondering if anyone still does NOT celebrate xmas since leaving jws.....or like me do you think"to hell with it", and join in the festivities. If you do celebrate it, do you still have pangs of guilt for celebrating this "pagan" festival???
chukky
were you in a congregation that fall apart?.
why did it happen?.
the cong i left had a really inneffective, uncaring body of elders who had a strong clique between themselves.over an 18 month period, they lost over 30 people (including my family) who were either stumbled or who left for other congs. i believe it is still in the process of what i would describe as falling apart
im sitting here today thinking:.
"my daughter should have had open heart surgery years ago and she would have been too young to know anything about it.
instead, she is about to face it now....the surgeons were relectant to do it when we were jws and she was so young.
im sitting here today thinking:
"my daughter should have had open heart surgery years ago and she would have been too young to know anything about it. instead, she is about to face it now....the surgeons were relectant to do it when we were jws and she was so young. ive lost a lot of work because many of my customers were jws.ive lost the opportunity to gain academic qualifications and a career/decent standard of living....because of jws, my wife and i are shunned every day/ my wife has had problems as a result. ..................all in all, jws have ruined my life and im still angry 2 years after leaving"
sorry for moaning but its good to vent
chukky
when i was an elder most of the rest of the body drank like fish, some would regularly get drunk and it was always ignored.
then these very same elders would reprove a young lad for excessive drinking!
was there similar hypocrisy in your cong????.
yes. my caps lock key is broken. i tipped a vodka/coke over the key board!
when i was an elder most of the rest of the body drank like fish, some would regularly get drunk and it was always ignored.
then these very same elders would reprove a young lad for excessive drinking!
was there similar hypocrisy in your cong????.
hi. when i was an elder most of the rest of the body drank like fish, some would regularly get drunk and it was always ignored. then these very same elders would reprove a young lad for excessive drinking! was there similar hypocrisy in your cong????
chukyy
just wondering what it was that started you to doubt that jws had the truth??
was it doctrine?
was it people?
hi. just wondering what it was that started you to doubt that jws had the truth?? was it doctrine? was it people? just interested????
chukyy
is it just me or do jw elders seem to parallel the pharisses of christs day?
certainly, the excessive laws (written and oral), are a heavy burden for all jws, impossible to keep, leading to feelings of guilt.
the elders enforce these laws , and, just like the pharisees of christs day, render these laws as having greater importance than mercy/love.
is it just me or do jw elders seem to parallel the pharisses of christs day? certainly, the excessive laws (written and oral), are a heavy burden for all jws, impossible to keep, leading to feelings of guilt. the elders enforce these laws , and, just like the pharisees of christs day, render these laws as having greater importance than mercy/love. some of these men are very religious in terms of observing law but have very little spirituality in terms of christian love. in other words, just as jesus said, outwardly they look like whitewashed graves. inside though there are just dead mens bones.
is this a harsh opinion....do you think these similarities are real?
chukyy
there is this couple who are still jws.
between them they have tried to commit suicide 4 times.
they hate each other with a passion and have been desperate for a divorce for years.
THERE IS THIS COUPLE WHO ARE STILL JWS. THEY CANNOT GET ON. BETWEEN THEM THEY HAVE TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE 4 TIMES. THEY HATE EACH OTHER WITH A PASSION AND HAVE BEEN DESPERATE FOR A DIVORCE FOR YEARS. THERE IS THIS HARDLINE ELDER WHO IS DEVOID OF COMPASSION THAT KEEPS TELLING THEM THAT THERE IS NO WAY THAT THEY CAN SEPERATE. ANYWAY,THEY HAVE SEPERATED AND HAVE PUT THERE HOUSE UP FOR SALE. NOW, CAN YOU GUESS WHO IS BUYING THEIR HOUSE?????? THATS RIGHT, MR "YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO SEPERATE" ELDER.
DO YOU THINK THATS HYPOCRITICAL OR NOT?
CHUKKY
my experience since leaving the jw's, knowing certain ones who still have contact, is that many jw's in good standing have done, or are doing things that could merit expulsion.
celebrating new year.
agreeing to blood transfusion.
MY EXPERIENCE SINCE LEAVING THE JW'S, KNOWING CERTAIN ONES WHO STILL HAVE CONTACT, IS THAT MANY JW'S IN GOOD STANDING HAVE DONE, OR ARE DOING THINGS THAT COULD MERIT EXPULSION. EG,
CELEBRATING NEW YEAR
AGREEING TO BLOOD TRANSFUSION
CHEATING OTHERS OUT OF MONEY ETC ETC,
MY QUESTION IS:
JUST HOW MANY WITNESSES ARE THERE WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISFELLOWSHIPPED BUT WHO ARE IN GOOD STANDING?......HAVE YOU KNOWN OF SUCH EXAMPLES?
EVEN WORSE, THESE SAME ONES MAY SHUN YOU IN THE STREET!
CHUKYY
i am very angry at this time.. i took my 7 yr old little girl to the hospital yesterday....she has had heart problems since birth.
i explained that we were no longer jw,s and would accept blood if necessary during open heart surgery.
the doctor told me that if that was the case, the operation must proceed without delay.
gill
she is going to bristol.they can repair now with keyhole useing an amplatzer device. my little girl has no upper septum and has her vessels the opposite way around and her valves have now been affected.
chukyy
