anxious to teach in the most effective and helpful way
TEACH WHAT? I despair - what is taught NOW will be obsolete next year. Don't they SEE this? No wonder the old JWs are confused - bet they put it down to old age and senility, poor souls.
with the latest insider news regarding the awake magazine going to a monthly publication, now would be a good time to examine a brief history of how jehovah has blessed the organization by simplifying it.
1993 paid for literature went to donation-based literature.
mid 1990s no food at assemblies and conventions.
anxious to teach in the most effective and helpful way
TEACH WHAT? I despair - what is taught NOW will be obsolete next year. Don't they SEE this? No wonder the old JWs are confused - bet they put it down to old age and senility, poor souls.
my 30-year old daughter committed suicide on 11-13-2004. we had both been jw's who had left the borg.
she had been diagnosed as bipolar.
i did a search from the top of the page to see if this topic has been covered but it did not work.
Rico - I am so sorry for your loss and the pain you must be feeling. Much Love. x
before i had disassociated myself i went through a period of missing meetings (go figure) and i was lurking around sites like this for quite a while, reading ex-witness books, and doing a lot of reseach into the bible itself.
i got an email from my best friend that was in my hall who was wondering what was up and if i was 'discouraged'.
i told him that i had been reading up on the wtbts and that i had been feeling like shit because i wasn't sure what i was doing with my life, still hanging onto some dream my parents had that was demonstrably messed up.
I'm with Lover of Truth on this one - your faith is between you and God, NOT via a bunch of Octogenarians in USA (followed by a series of wannabes. And I bitterly resent the Society judging what is in peoples' hearts.
hi there, i know its up to me in the end, but just wondering, what would most of you do?
my da'ing could be tonight, should i take the opportunity (before they can no longer speak to me ) to tell a few jw's that i am being da'd for telling the truth, or not to bother.
does it matter anyway.
Have I got this right -You are being asked to Disassociate because you expressed concern over the UN thing? What are you supposed to do? JW POSITIVELY encourages members of other religions to question teachings in a bid to find the 'Truth'.
Any decent JWs, especially those who like you, will probably find out/know why you are D'Ad - I personally wouldn't bother contacting anyone (but that's just me), because it will only reinforce their 'case' that you are a trouble maker, apostate, desperate, etc.
I am surprised that an MS is willing to be openly frank about his feelings - but is this allowed as those with 'positions' are immune ? After all, not believing JW teachings IS apostate from the Society's point.
I wish you much luck, and strength - please keep us posted on outcome
like most on this board, i know the story, have seen the un press release, ect.
but can someone comment on two questions for me?.
who caught them with their hands in the cookie jar?
What I find suspect is that as soon as they were rumbled in 2001, they immediately withdrew from the UN - not the actions of someone with innocent motives and a valid reason for being a member anyway. The library card thing is rubbish, whichever way they 'sex it up'.
anyone here read fantasy novels?
i know most of us have been away with the fairies, for real.
so i can understand if some give the genre a wide berth.
YES - 'Revelation, its grand climax at hand' - lol.
Alternatively, if you like fairies, ''ONCE'', by James Herbert - but better still, 'Nobody True'', by the same author.
i bet this is all old hat to you regulars on the board, but occassionally when i look for something, i find more than i expect.
was mulling over the 1914 thing (607 etc) and discovered :-.
i thought this was a hoax, then clicked on the link to ''thy kingdom come'' - so now what to believe?
Great feedback - and I'm very grateful for all the research you've put into it - I need to try and piece a few things together.
The 'inches' are a tad suspect to me, surely it would have been something like 'cubits'? lol....and I feel soooo silly now, because for all these years I've believed that the Pyramids were just big tombs for important Pharaohs......
looking over the beliefs once shared in the borg, it's a little disturbing to see just how intrinsic and profound our allegiance to the organization was.
rules and reasoning for nearly every thought, wish, dream or idea.
i know it's a stupid question but, couldn't we have seen this coming?
I liked to think that it started with good intentions - to bring the 'Truth' to the people, away from the trappings of 'Organised' religions - but now, even though that may be true, I realise that Russell was just an ordinary man with his strange little hobbies.
This is a very clever Cult - not only from the 'elite' angle (the soon to be upon us Armageddon and only we will be saved)...but also it's defence mechanism. The more oppostion it gets, the stronger it becomes, reinforcing its members that it is the 'Truth' - very clever.
my last meeting was memorable.
it was a saturday morning bookstudy.
i showed up a little late per usual with my coffee.
you are going to just have to try harder
for the next 3 monthes or so and write another letter
DIdn't you just feel that love and encouragement? - Really though, that's awful - I think these 'men' just like exercising the only power they will ever have - and that's what it's about in a lot of cases...Do unto others etc.
straight away told im not ready for baptism, not with the amount and depth of questions, that ive been warned about these sites and that apostates will do anything to knock jws.
proving its the true religion bec the bible says it will happen (shows me scriptures).
also told it doesnt happen with any other religious group - usually people just quietly leave and make no fuss - further proof that ths is the true religion.. i asked about all the dates where predictions were made, eg 1914, 1975. was told there were some articles loosly talking the 'possibility' of something happening, but the wt never said it definitely would - how could it, these are just ordinary men, not profits.
Holly a great read ! AND you have the ability to think for yourself (not recommended) - a 'change of heart' means losing this ability.
these are just ordinary men, not profits.
....and I think you hit the nail on the head -lololol.