i bet this is all old hat to you regulars on the board, but occassionally when i look for something, i find more than i expect.
was mulling over the 1914 thing (607 etc) and discovered :-.
i thought this was a hoax, then clicked on the link to ''thy kingdom come'' - so now what to believe?
Great feedback - and I'm very grateful for all the research you've put into it - I need to try and piece a few things together.
The 'inches' are a tad suspect to me, surely it would have been something like 'cubits'? lol....and I feel soooo silly now, because for all these years I've believed that the Pyramids were just big tombs for important Pharaohs......
looking over the beliefs once shared in the borg, it's a little disturbing to see just how intrinsic and profound our allegiance to the organization was.
rules and reasoning for nearly every thought, wish, dream or idea.
i know it's a stupid question but, couldn't we have seen this coming?
I liked to think that it started with good intentions - to bring the 'Truth' to the people, away from the trappings of 'Organised' religions - but now, even though that may be true, I realise that Russell was just an ordinary man with his strange little hobbies.
This is a very clever Cult - not only from the 'elite' angle (the soon to be upon us Armageddon and only we will be saved)...but also it's defence mechanism. The more oppostion it gets, the stronger it becomes, reinforcing its members that it is the 'Truth' - very clever.
my last meeting was memorable.
it was a saturday morning bookstudy.
i showed up a little late per usual with my coffee.
you are going to just have to try harder
for the next 3 monthes or so and write another letter
DIdn't you just feel that love and encouragement? - Really though, that's awful - I think these 'men' just like exercising the only power they will ever have - and that's what it's about in a lot of cases...Do unto others etc.
straight away told im not ready for baptism, not with the amount and depth of questions, that ive been warned about these sites and that apostates will do anything to knock jws.
proving its the true religion bec the bible says it will happen (shows me scriptures).
also told it doesnt happen with any other religious group - usually people just quietly leave and make no fuss - further proof that ths is the true religion.. i asked about all the dates where predictions were made, eg 1914, 1975. was told there were some articles loosly talking the 'possibility' of something happening, but the wt never said it definitely would - how could it, these are just ordinary men, not profits.
Holly a great read ! AND you have the ability to think for yourself (not recommended) - a 'change of heart' means losing this ability.
these are just ordinary men, not profits.
....and I think you hit the nail on the head -lololol.
i recently got into a discussion regarding shunning in the jws.
i have a few questions in this regard.
does jws tell their people that there are certain people should be shunned?.
Who are the people that should be shunned?
I believe it's just disfellowshipped ones who 'should' be shunned - but in my PERSONAL experience, I have been shunned after simply not attending anymore (only by a particular few). I think they're a Law unto themselves.
many years ago in scotland, a new game was invented.
it was ruled .
"gentlemen only...ladies forbidden"...and thus the word golf entered .
Very Interesting Capone - thanks for that :)....oh, and by the way, I tried to lick my elbow YEARS ago. .. I DO wonder how many people can touch their nose with their tongue? I can, but don't know anyone else, any nose - lickers here?
some religions which have been on the fringe of society are eventually accepted into the mainstream because they have an aspect which is socially acceptable or beneficial to society.
for example, the seventh day adventists have hospitals and the mormons have the tabernacle choir.
but the jws seem to have nothing with which to appeal to the larger culture.
Never! 'We are no part of the World!' I believe is a phrase they're proud of using.
.......well, not until we're rumbled.....
hi, i am new to this site.
i have been an ex- jw for about 10years now, and this is the first time i have done this.
( trying to avoid the "apostate" label) haha i would love to hear from some ex- jw's, and see if they have and are going thru some of the same experiences that i am.
Welcome Happy Camper
I am relatively new here, but have found this site very useful in a lot of ways. I am sure, like me, that once you start reading the different threads you will be able to identify with many experiences.
It won't take you long to 'find your feet' - everyone seems very friendly - look forward to reading your posts in due course.
saturday seems to be much preferred over sunday, so this years bbq will be held on saturday, july 9th, commencing around 2 pm.
location is our home in weston super mare.
as usual, the day will be very boozy and proceedings will conclude in the waverley pub.
Location is our home in Weston super Mare.
.err....may have to narrow it down a tad more, lol - will you be PMing the details? Many Thanks.
folks, now we have a scan!
only now i was able to put my hands on the mar/05 km.
too bad it is in portuguese, but i'm providing a translation of paragraph 6, which is what really matters.
Watchtower contains deep biblical information
LOL - I must have missed that..........
