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Does Genesis 1:26 support Devine Trinity???

by zagor in

i've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one: .

please read again genesis 1:26

this is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says let us create .

inquirer

If you put "God" as the plural "Gods" (like in the ancient Hebrew) it obviously can't be a trinity because of English grammar!!!

Proper English grammar translation: "And GOD went on to say: “Let us make man in our image..."

You can't forsake English grammar! They use to teach this thing called grammar in Australia, and you realize how flaming important it is!

It's like with John 1:1... Jesus and God can't be God -- it's either one or the other!!! Jesus is with WITH God (with the power of God's holy spirit.) If Jesus decided to be against God, he would't have been WITH God.

Another point: If Jesus went along with Satan, there would only be 2/3's of a trinity!!!!!!!!

Another thing: I can't be my dad and my dad my dad... I think God understands English grammar!

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Does Genesis 1:26 support Devine Trinity???

by zagor in

i've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one: .

please read again genesis 1:26

this is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says let us create .

inquirer

another way of looking at it, is that God had an audience with him. A bit like if you go to a science fair (I don't live in America, just referring to the Simpsons) where you show off your science gadget. Or you are in school and you are talking to the audience about your favorite object and what tricks you do with it -- show and tell. And so with Genesis 1:26, he had an AUDIENCE.

God (single being) was talking to say 3,000 (plural, seperate beings) about this amazing new trick he was going to do (an image of themselves), a human being.

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Does Genesis 1:26 support Devine Trinity???

by zagor in

i've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one: .

please read again genesis 1:26

this is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says let us create .

inquirer

Gen 1:26 And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness..." I have been thinking lately (from a unitarian perspective) that Jehovah could have been "looking" and Jesus and some of the angels getting happy about the whole affair: "Yeah! What a wonderful idea! Don't you agree with me Jesus and Angel x,y and z (not necessarily all of them) 'Let us create man in our image! What a wonderful idea! I am sure when he is created you will understand why I have created this planet earth more.'"

You see, it doesn't explain it from a "full picture" perspective! I could easily be cooking dinner and be in a happy mood and say "Let's make dinner," and the cat comes in and what's it's dinner too! But unless the author tells you whole picture, you would have just concluded that I was in the kitchen by myself!

I disagree with "man" being put in 3 objectives in the mindset. I thought the idea of a trinity was was that they were co-equal, 3 bodies in one or something like that. I think by the fact that Adam was created in God's image (one body) proves the fact there is no trinity! Otherwise Adam would've had 3 heads! :D lol

(Reminds me of a video game Moneky Island "Look behind you! A 3-headed monkey!")

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Does Raymond Franz believe in the trinity or not?

by inquirer in

i was thinking of buying that book "christian freedom.

" does he specifically say he believes in the trinity or not?

does anyone of you hear know of him?

inquirer

I personally don't believe in the trinity.

If Raymond believes in it, it's up to him. I would still probably buy the book, because he is a FLAMING GOOD WRITER! CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE -- One of the best books ever written!

Only Jehovah Elohim knows how much I liked that book!

Don't know if you would get the same feeling as me if you don't know much about JW's or never been a JW's!

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How do I contact Raymond Franz and thank him?

by inquirer in

i know i have posted this before, but i didn't have time to read it and respond!!!

i am sorry for that, but i want to contact him before he dies!!!

is that commentary press site his?

inquirer

Well I love to get an email from him!!! I sent him an email earlier on....

Does he answer all emails? I hope so! Mine was a bit lame... but it was a thank you.

Yeah he is a good bloke. hope I get a response!

I hope he continues to have a long life! :) I agape him!

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question for all

by bonnzo in

jw
friends

most of you are ex-dubs, so what if world events proved that the jw's were right.

for instance, governments turning on religion, matthew 24th chapt events really increasing at an alarming rate, enough to make you think: " maybe they were right?

" if that happened, and the wts left the "door on the ark", so to speak, open for a little while, would you go back to the wts?

inquirer

There are MANY WAYS of looking at this issue. All the people who have partipated in this thread are looking at it from different angles... They are all true in my opinion... We just have different ways of looking at it through our own personalities. :)

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question for all

by bonnzo in

jw
friends

most of you are ex-dubs, so what if world events proved that the jw's were right.

for instance, governments turning on religion, matthew 24th chapt events really increasing at an alarming rate, enough to make you think: " maybe they were right?

" if that happened, and the wts left the "door on the ark", so to speak, open for a little while, would you go back to the wts?

inquirer

Any religion (I mean ANY) that says they are the right religion means they wrong!

If you were the right religion, you wouldn't need to say you were! You have to read the Scriptures daily to see if it is true (Acts 17:11)

You tests the spirits to see if it's true. ... I mean... this Scripture says it all 1 John 4:1 Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

FREEPEACE: Please have a listen to what I said in my threads... I mean, they always say (a worldly saying if you must [or just common sense!!! lol]) "There is always 2 sides to a story."

I'll just leave you with this thought: Do we need an organization to get God's approval?

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A question for the Christians...

by misspeaches in

hi guys.

wondering if you have any input on this one.. now that you are no longer a jw what is your interpratation of the lords prayer where it says 'let your will take place in heaven also upon earth'.. i would love to hear your opinions on this matter.

as a christian the belief is that you are going to heaven right?

inquirer

Well obviously people are going to disagree with me. But I think if his will is on earth that means he wants people to be resurrected on earth. But he wants the spiritual ones to look out for us in heaven.

The "will" takes place in heaven and the blessed ones receive the benefits of this will on earth.

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Does Raymond Franz believe in the trinity or not?

by inquirer in

i was thinking of buying that book "christian freedom.

" does he specifically say he believes in the trinity or not?

does anyone of you hear know of him?

inquirer

I was thinking of buying that book "Christian freedom." Does he specifically say he believes in the trinity or not?

Does anyone of you hear know of him? Does he believe in the trinity but won't put it in his book? (So in that case it's not official.)

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How do I contact Raymond Franz and thank him?

by inquirer in

i know i have posted this before, but i didn't have time to read it and respond!!!

i am sorry for that, but i want to contact him before he dies!!!

is that commentary press site his?

inquirer

Thanks for your help. :)