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  List options for my escape here.

  by tsunami_rid3r in

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  problem: .

  want a normal life of going to college, freedom.

  in return will get kicked out of the house.

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  Frog

  Hey there,

  I first want to say that you're incredibly brave and strong, and you will need to continue to be in order to live a life that is going to be true to yourself. I suggest that you speak with your parents and tell them about your doubts, tell them that you believe it is important for you to be honest (perhaps don't tell them your posting here, they should be on a need to know basis since you're almost 18). Tell them that you know that you need to go to college, and that you are prepared to do this with our without their help. Tell them that you respect them (even though I know you're struggling with this at the moment), and love them, that you don't want to loose them, and that you would appreciate their support. In return you will do your best to live a conservative life, and respect the rules of the house which do not conflict with your own.

  I honestly don't believe that your only answer is moving out and making hardship for yourself, or alternatively conforming to the extreme jw expectation of your mother (parents). If you have the above conversation and it is clear that your mother cannot support you in your new life, then you may have to consider moving out, but try not to let it get to that if you can.

  I moved out of my very strict jw family when I was 18y/o and it was tough. It has all worked out in the end, and if I had my time over I'd probably do it again. I'm not sure what the welfare situation is like in the States but I know that here in Australia you're not eligible for fortnightly student payments without declaring your parents income until you're over 24. If your parents aren't on a high income, then you might be eligible for student loans and payments anway, ask for your fathers help in filling out the necessary paperwork. Alternatively, and this should be a very last resort, if you are able to prove that your family conditions are very intense and unpleasant (you normally have to prove verbal abuse or more) then you may be viewed as an independent adult in the state your living in, therefore don't have to prove your parents income.

  Well I wish you all the best, and continue to keep us all updated on your progress:-) froglett
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  Would you change your past if you could?

  by John Doe in

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  i used to live with many regrets, thinking that i'd screwed up.

  recently, i've been thinking that regretting past actions is not constructive.

  sure, we should base our current actions by assessing the results of our former actions, but regretting decisions we've made is, in effect, yearning to change the person we are now or rejecting ourselves.

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  Frog

  If we weren't supposed to learn from or past "mistakes" we would have been given hindsight as an additional sense. I don't think there are too many mistakes we can make, everything we do is a learning experience in life. I'm certain that most of our "transgressions" are more than forgivable by the people that know and love us best.

  Froglett/from the no looking back class
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  Hello ScrappyKat!!!

  by misspeaches in

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  i would just like to send a big hug to my sister scrappykat who has just recently joined this board.

  jwd has been such an eye opener and making me think and now hopefully she will experience the same things i have.

  just having it reconfirmed in our minds that it is not the 'troof' can be so damned comforting!

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  Frog

  HI Scrappy Kat & Miss Peaches...you're all making us insanely happy and jealous of you!!..how much we all wish our sisters were here posting with us, makes me feel a little teary. Take care of eachother, luv froglett
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  Mum acknowledged my Bday - for the 1st time

  by misspeaches in

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  yesterday i turned 30.

  (i am so wise now.

  ) being startled enough that i came to this age so damned quickly was nothing compared to hearing from my mother.

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  Frog

  YAY FOR BIRTHDAYS!!! happy happy birthday misspeaches...I can only imagine how shocked and surprised you must have been at your mother acknowledgeing your special day. Birthdays are definitely something you should get used to, they're a really special day that your friends and family can acknowledge how stoked they are to have you in this world:-) Enjoy it, you can justify eating much cake for at least another 10days, 30 years is afterall a big one! froglett
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  People from that island west of Europe: What do you call your country?

  by seattleniceguy in

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  i'm curious.

  do you call it the uk, england, or britain?

  i have the sneaking suspicion that these terms each mean something slightly different from one another, but i thought i'd see how the natives use them.

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  Frog

  I dare say SNG you may now probaby wish you had never asked! Having lived in the "UK" for a while I know what a complex issue this all is. I'm fairly certain though, that the true definitions of these terms are not necessarily consistently reflected in the residents understanding of them...
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  YESTERDAY'S "SPECIAL TALK"

  by Mary in

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  well i couldn't bring myself to go to the "special talk" that was being held at copps colesium yesterday, as i was busy plucking my eyebrows and watching the grass grow

  anyhoo, you know what this "special talk" consisted of?

  experiences from brothers in foreign lands.

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  Frog

  oh how bl**dy disappointing! Here I was getting all wound up that there might be some twisted "new light" delivered at this well advertised "special" talk...I can't believe that's all it was??????????????????????????????????????????
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  has this happened to you???

  by donald in

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  back when i was in high school i was in deca...i won national trophies for public speaking.......upon gradrution...i was offerd a scolarship to a major college....for public speaking.....but the elders conveinced me to go into the pioneer service...i did a dead end job to cover expenses...and it became my permant job when i got married a copule of years later.....with no college...and almost no help to find another job...to rake care of my wife and three kids...i feel i might have thrown my life away....well onr good thing about being on dialsys is ill get an education.donald

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  Frog

  Excellent work, I'd of course love to browse through it once you've compiled it:-)
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  Please help me understand about JWs as I have no idea about this religion

  by unknown in

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  i am looking for some one to help me understand a particular issue as a jw would see it.... if a single practicing jw was to have an affair with a married person (not a jw) knowing that they were married what would come of them or how would they feel about this being brought with a strict jw background?

  i am trying to understand this as i have no knowlege of this religion.

  any help would be appreciated.

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  Frog

  Hi unknown, there's a very strict 'no sex before marriage' rule...no fornication and no adultery. In this instance it would be irrelevant who the person was that the jw had sex with, it wouldn't necessarily be judged any worse that the other party was married, and that the jw had prior knowledge of this...You've got me curious now though, have you got your eyes on jw hottie??! froglett
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  has this happened to you???

  by donald in

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  back when i was in high school i was in deca...i won national trophies for public speaking.......upon gradrution...i was offerd a scolarship to a major college....for public speaking.....but the elders conveinced me to go into the pioneer service...i did a dead end job to cover expenses...and it became my permant job when i got married a copule of years later.....with no college...and almost no help to find another job...to rake care of my wife and three kids...i feel i might have thrown my life away....well onr good thing about being on dialsys is ill get an education.donald

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  Frog

  I have to admit I too was guity of believing my stories were unique and tragic enough to fill a top selling biography!...coming on to the forum certainly humbles you in that regard. Perhaps we could have published a rather candidly written collective account of life as a jw-kid raised in the "troof"...
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  My Bethel Trip...

  by RichieRich in

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  well kids... i'm home from bethel.... i made it.

  i didn't kill anyone, although i was tempted.

  and the scariest part of all was: i semi-enjoyed it!

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  Frog

  What a trip!! don't need mind altering hallucinogenic drugs on a tour like that haha. When I first read your post I read it as that you were 64!! I had to re-read it and understand you were saying you are 6ft 4" hehe