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What Is The "Bottom Line" Regarding The "Truth"/ Organization???
The bottom line of course!
is it that it's all a joke, a smokescreen?
is it all about 'just do for us and expect nothing in return'?
is it that they really don't care about anything but their property and their real estate?
You may have answered the question within the question.
What Is The "Bottom Line" Regarding The "Truth"/ Organization???
The bottom line of course!
hey there.
i'm new to this board, so i thought i'd introduce myself with a story.
it details the kind of thursday night we all dreaded as a young jw.
And with that, a giant collective sigh could be heard falling through the noses of the brothers and sisters, like a procrastinating turd that managed to waste two hours inside a dark hole before rolling out into the bowl with a satisfying splash.
This was the most poetic thing I've ever read. WOW!
my first thought was actually that the 2 prophets had arrived for the watchtower, meaning it would collapse itself in the not to distant future.. secondly i thought the watchtower would say the twin towers are the final prophets for the coming armageddon.
i'm not aware of any official communications on behalf of the wtbts regarding the subject, are there?
in fact i did stay in new york in 2000 but i only walked brooklyn bridge halfway, never made it to brooklyn.
Brooklyn HQ has a direct view to the WTC. From 124 and 30 Columbia Hgts. Straight across the river, front row seats.
My friend from Bethel told me that when the attacks happened, a bunch of ppl were gravitating toward the windows to see what was going on(naturally). After a few minutes the overseer came by and told ppl to get back to work.
There were swarms of ppl coming across the Brooklyn bridge from the Manhattan side. He told me that bethel locked all their doors.
Can you feel the love?
i was reading the thread about the prospect of the wts releasing some new light shite about a prophecy to fulfil the fact that they are not growing and it brought back a really horrid memory, unintentional i know but horrid nonetheless.. the co visited the congregation were i was from and after the obligatory song and prayer, it was announced that the co needed to speak to us urgently on a local needs issue.
he came onto the platform his look was sombre and melancholy (nothing new there then).
he said he had an announcement from the governing body and that their had been a law passed that day which banned jw's in the uk that the usa and other world governments had notified the wts that they were to follow suit shortly.
He said he had an announcement from the governing body and that their had been a law passed that day which banned JW'S in the UK that the USA and other world governments had notified the WTS that they were to follow suit shortly.
Imagine if anyone else raised their hand to make a comment and made this remark. You would be severely counselled for spreading false rumours. But hey..it's ok if the CO does it.
this is a book supposedly written by enoch that some say was left out of the bible canon by the early church when it was being put together.. i'm in the middle of it and find it very interesting.
it gets into some fascinating details about the pre-flood world than the books in the regular bible canon.
enoch has a lot of visions which are very reminscent of revelation.
leolaia,
I have this one. "The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament" R.H. Charles (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913)
I appreciate the amazing effort you put into researching this on the other thread. I've only skimmed though it so far but it looks extremely informative.
was following mary's thread on the wt study of the annual report - what a hoot!.
in follow-up; for years we have heard that the org's growth was 'proof' of the 'truth'.
do you think the org will come up with some obsure scriptural/prophetic understanding to explain the reduced zeal for the 'kingdom' now?
I love blondie's realistic WT slant
These days, Jesus said, would be "just as the days of Noah were." Noah was called a "preacher of righteousness" and when his warning work was completed and the door of the ark was closed, there were no more disciples made from that generation. The opportunity for salvation had passed.
So, what's the point of preaching then if the door is already shut? Sounds like a catch 22 to me.
What's another word for synonym?
Why are hemorrhoids called hemorrhoids instead of "asteroids"?
Why are they called apartments, when they're all stuck together?
Why are they called buildings, when they're already finished? Shouldn't they be called builts?
Why do banks charge you a "non-sufficient funds fee" on money they already know you don't have?
Why do kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
Why do people without a watch look at their wrist when you ask them what time it is?
Why do scientists call it research when looking for something new?
Why do you press harder on a remote control when you know the battery is dead?
Why does sour cream have an expiration date?
Why is it that when you transport something by car, it's called a shipment, and when you transport something by ship, it's called cargo?
Why is it, when a door is open it's ajar, but when a jar is open, it's not a door?
Why is lemon juice mostly artificial ingredients but dishwashing liquid contains real lemons?
Would a fly without wings be called a walk?
hey peoples.
i just signed up for school to get a massage certification/degree.
i'm scared at how expensive it is.
My wife was a massage therapist for a few years but stopped because of the physical strain.
You can make pretty good money though.
Just remember to pace yourself and don't burn yourself out. Your guinea pig plan sounds like a winner! Can I be a guinea pig too?
Good luck! (oops, we're not supposed to say that!)
Many good fortunes! (that's better....i think)
of all names...have you ever wondered why the flagship magazine and of the society is called the "watchtower"?
Wow metatron,
- So the Golden Dawn originates with an occult organization
- "Watchtower" was used by sorcerers of the time. (which must undoubtedly have something to do with the reference above)
And the symbol and name still stands as the 'modern day' trademark of the supposed "Jehovah's visible organization" on earth.
*sniff sniff* ...I smell something fishy
Thanks for clearing that up metatron.
of all names...have you ever wondered why the flagship magazine and of the society is called the "watchtower"?
JTP,
That's the "official" reason why they named it that, but I found something else that's a bit disturbing.
It has to do with CT Russell. In addition to dabbling with pyramids, he also is known to have dabbled in Enochian magic.
Here is an excerpt of what I found at this site regarding this subject:
http://www.supertarot.co.uk/magic/enoch.htm
The Enochian System of Magick, the Spiritual and Magickal Pinnacle
of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, has three main areas:
the 30 Aethyrs, the 91 Governors and the 4 Watchtowers.
Most reference books show the Aethyrs and Governors in sequential order,
as given by John Dee, skating over the fact that there are exactly 22 Governors
in each Watchtower (leaving two squares over that are added together to produce
a 92nd Governor, who is considered to be evil).
There have also been attempts to use other occult models such as the
Tree of Life (Pat Zalewski), or the Gupta-Vidya model (Schueler).
They have some use, but there are also problems with them.
The Keys to understanding the Powers of the Tarot are scattered amongst various publications:
There are supposedly 4 Watchtowers which play a prominent role in this realm of belief.
Could the name "Watchtower" have originated with Russell's involvement with this type of thing?