ithinkisee
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KATE MOSS OR KATE WINSLET?
by Mary ini just read that kate moss has been given more modelling jobs now that she's been a whole month "clean" of using cocaine which is how she kept her body at skin and bones.
i hear lots of women say they'd "love to have a body like hers", when we know the only way she can keep that skinny is by using drugs.
i was told that i was "just jealous" and that "all women would like to be that thin.
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You know, were all still a percentage Jehovah's Witness. Like it, or not!
by free2beme ini know a lot of people we say, i am 100% out, and speak of all the things they disagree with.
yet i don't think that is the case, we are what the accumulation of our days have brought us too and no matter how hard you try, i know you all have witness in you.
it might be as simple as a thought when we do something normal, with some stray conscience struggle with doing something we were told was wrong for so many years.
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ithinkisee
It is debatable whether the one or two things are ACTUALLY the "JW in you".
For instance, I have had two non-JWs (one is an ex-JW, another is my dad who never was a JW) tell me there are some good things to be learned from being a JW. My dad said the good morals they encourage is a positive, and is not necessarily JW-specific. My ex-JW friend says the same thing.
So I don't necessarily believe it is "the JW in you". It, in fact, may just be one good aspect of having been a JW that is not unique to JWs.
In this case I don't really consider it a "JW" trait.
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Why do they let Children Get Baptized?
by Dune inso i've been wondering about it recently.
i was baptized when i was 11 years old and have been a witness for about 8 years now.
since i was 11 (yes, since 11) i've been reading the watchtower, doing the mics and all that stuff.
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ithinkisee
Recruitment. Simply recruitment.
(under the guise of "spirituality")
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USA service report shows a decrease of 1442 publishers
by truthseeker infrom september 2004 to july 2005, there has been no increase in the number of publishers reporting for the 2005 service year, which began last september.
september 2004 - 990,551 .
october 2004 - 993,476 .
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ithinkisee
Hahaha ... my wife was a virgin to fake time reporting ... until this month ...
The family that fakes field service together ... stays together ....
I imagine if everyone was really truthful with their field service time there would be some SERIOUS DECREASES.
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% Women vs. % Men in JW
by void ini read a scientific study a few months ago that stated the women where more susceptible to religion than men.
(i am trying to find this article as i dont like not backing up my claims.
anyway it got me thinking a lot.
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ithinkisee
Women seem to make the emotional connection more than men ... which may be part of the reason.
My wife probably has a lot to say on this point ...
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My sister Robin RIP Mar. 26, 1963 - Nov. 7, 2005
by Lady Lee ini just got some news and am still shaking.
my sister died today.
i hardly knew her .
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ithinkisee
I wish you all the best Lady Lee. Sorry to hear to news.
-ithinkisee
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What's the Society's beef - The act of going to college OR getting a degree
by truthseeker ini have a question - the society laments about those jw's who ignore "wisdom from above" to pioneer after high school but go to college instead.. they use a fictional account of timothy rejecting higher education at the drama this year.. they scream in the oct 1st wt that university (consisting of four years) is bad and ask rheotorical questions to parents such as, "christian parents, is this what you really want for your children?".
if the act of going to college campus was so bad, why doesn't the society permit "online degrees?
" - these are more cost effective and just as valuable as a traditional campus based ecuation.. so what is it about going to university that really upsets them?.
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ithinkisee
Somebody on here quoted a recent WT where it says "Education can even lead to suicide"
Can anyone confirm this?
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To all who have left or question the WTS
by IP_SEC inleaving the wts is very difficult.
this is probably something few people can understand.
"you left a church, so what, people do that every day".
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ithinkisee
Matt,
Are we gonna ever get an update on YOUR current situation?
The last thing we really got in detail was that you left and your wife was having a hard time dealing with it and things were a little rocky. I know you sent some of us some PMs with updates later on ... but I wasn't sure if that was public knowledge or whatever.
Anyhow ... just wondering if anyone else was curious about how things are now that you DA'd. Where are you living? How is the wife? Have you heard any word back from your congregation?
C'mon man ... spill it!
-ithinkisee (Who knows not everyone is a blabbermouth like me ...)
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Book Study Wk 20 11/7: pg 136-144: A SMALL HORN GAINS THE ASCENDANCY
by ithinkisee ina small horn gains the ascendancy
20 i kept on considering the horns, said daniel, and, look!
another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it.
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A SMALL HORN GAINS THE ASCENDANCY 20 “I kept on considering the horns,” said Daniel, “and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it.” (Daniel 7:8) Concerning this outgrowth, the angel told Daniel: “Another one will rise up after them [the ten kings], and he himself will be different from the first ones, and three kings he will humiliate.” (Daniel 7:24) Who is this king, when did he rise, and what three kings did he humiliate?
21 Consider the following developments. In 55 B.C.E., Roman General Julius Caesar invaded Britannia but failed to establish a permanent settlement. In 43 C.E., Emperor Claudius began a more permanent conquest of southern Britain. Then, in 122 C.E., Emperor Hadrian began to build a wall from the Tyne River to the Solway Firth, marking the northern limit of the Roman Empire. Early in the fifth century, the Roman legions left the island. “In the sixteenth century,” explained one historian, “England had been a second-rate power. Its wealth was slight compared with that of the Netherlands. Its population was much less than that of France. Its armed forces (including its navy) were inferior to Spain’s.” Britain evidently was an insignificant kingdom then, making up the symbolic small horn of the fourth beast. But that was to change.
22 In 1588, Philip II of Spain launched the Spanish Armada against Britain. This fleet of 130 ships, carrying more than 24,000 men, sailed up the English Channel, only to suffer defeat by the British navy and to fall victim to contrary winds and fierce Atlantic storms. This event “marked the decisive passing of naval superiority from Spain to England,” said one historian. In the 17th century, the Dutch developed the world’s largest merchant marine. With growing overseas colonies, however, Britain prevailed over that kingdom. During the 18th century, the British and the French fought each other in North America and India, leading to the Treaty of Paris in 1763. This treaty, said author William B. Willcox, “recognized Britain’s new position as the predominant European power in the world beyond Europe.” Britain’s supremacy was confirmed by the crushing victory over Napoléon of France in 1815 C.E. The “three kings” that Britain thus ‘humiliated’ were Spain, the Netherlands, and France. (Daniel 7:24) As a result, Britain emerged as the world’s greatest colonial and commercial power. Yes, the “small” horn grew to become a world power!
23 The angel told Daniel that the fourth beast, or fourth kingdom, would “devour all the earth.” (Daniel 7:23) That proved true of the Roman province once known as Britannia. It eventually became the British Empire and ‘devoured all the earth.’ At one time, this empire embraced one fourth of the earth’s land surface and a fourth of its population.
24 As the Roman Empire differed from previous world powers, the king depicted by the “small” horn would also “be different from the first ones.” (Daniel 7:24) Concerning the British Empire, historian H. G. Wells noted: “Nothing of the sort has ever existed before. First and central to the whole system was the ‘crowned republic’ of the United British Kingdoms . . . No single office and no single brain had ever comprehended the British Empire as a whole. It was a mixture of growths and accumulations entirely different from anything that has ever been called an empire before.”
25 There was more to the “small” horn than the British Empire. In 1783, Britain recognized the independence of its 13 American colonies. The United States of America eventually became Britain’s ally, emerging from World War II as the earth’s dominant nation. It still has strong ties with Britain. The resulting Anglo-American dual world power constitutes the ‘horn having eyes.’ Indeed, this world power is observant, astute! It ‘speaks grandiose things,’ dictating policy for much of the world and acting as its mouthpiece, or “false prophet.”—Daniel 7:8, 11, 20; Revelation 16:13; 19:20.
THE SMALL HORN OPPOSES GOD AND HIS HOLY ONES
26 Daniel continued to describe his vision, saying: “I kept on beholding when that very horn made war upon the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them.” (Daniel 7:21) Regarding this “horn,” or king, God’s angel foretold: “He will speak even words against the Most High, and he will harass continually the holy ones themselves of the Supreme One. And he will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, and times and half a time.” (Daniel 7:25) How and when was this part of the prophecy fulfilled?
27 “The holy ones” persecuted by the “small” horn—the Anglo-American World Power—are Jesus’ spirit-anointed followers on earth. (Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 2:9) For years before World War I, the remnant of these anointed ones publicly warned that 1914 would see the conclusion of “the appointed times of the nations.” (Luke 21:24) When war broke out in that year, it was evident that the “small” horn had ignored this warning, for it persisted in harassing the anointed “holy ones.” The Anglo-American World Power even opposed their efforts to carry out Jehovah’s requirement (or, “law”) that the good news of the Kingdom be preached worldwide by his witnesses. (Matthew 24:14) Thus the “small” horn attempted “to change times and law.”
28 Jehovah’s angel referred to a prophetic period of “a time, and times and half a time.” How long is that? Bible expositors generally agree that this expression denotes three and a half times—the sum of one time, two times, and half a time. Since Nebuchadnezzar’s “seven times” of madness amounted to seven years, the three and a half times are three and a half years. (Daniel 4:16, 25) An American Translation reads: “They shall be handed over to him for a year, two years, and half a year.” James Moffatt’s version says: “For three years and half a year.” The same period is mentioned at Revelation 11:2-7, which states that God’s witnesses would preach dressed in sackcloth for 42 months, or 1,260 days, and then be killed. When did this time period begin and end?
29 For the anointed Christians, World War I meant a time of testing. By the end of 1914, they were expecting persecution. In fact, the very yeartext chosen for 1915 was Jesus’ question to his disciples, “Are ye able to drink of my cup?” It was based on Matthew 20:22, King James Version. Hence, beginning in December 1914, that small band of witnesses preached “in sackcloth.”
30 As war fever took hold, the anointed Christians encountered mounting opposition. Some of them were imprisoned. Individuals, such as Frank Platt in England and Robert Clegg in Canada, were tortured by sadistic authorities. On February 12, 1918, the British Dominion of Canada banned the recently published seventh volume of Studies in the Scriptures, entitled The Finished Mystery, as well as the tracts entitled The Bible Students Monthly. The following month, the U.S. Department of Justice pronounced the distribution of the seventh volume illegal. The result? Why, homes were searched, literature was confiscated, and Jehovah’s worshipers were arrested!
31 Harassment of God’s anointed ones climaxed on June 21, 1918, when the president, J. F. Rutherford, and prominent members of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society were sentenced on false charges to long prison terms. Intending “to change times and law,” the “small” horn had effectively killed the organized preaching work. (Revelation 11:7) So the foretold period of “a time, and times and half a time” ended in June 1918.
32 But “the holy ones” were not wiped out by the harassment from the “small” horn. As prophesied in the book of Revelation, after a short period of inactivity, the anointed Christians became alive and active again. (Revelation 11:11-13) On March 26, 1919, the president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society and his associates were released from prison, and they were later exonerated of the false charges against them. Immediately thereafter, the anointed remnant began to reorganize for further activity. What, though, would be in store for the “small” horn?
[Questions]
19. According to one historian, how did Rome compare with the preceding empires?
20. What did the angel say about the outgrowth of a small horn on the head of the fourth beast?
21. How did Britain come to be the symbolic small horn of the fourth beast?
22. (a) What other three horns of the fourth beast did the “small” horn overcome? (b) Britain then emerged as what?
23. In what way did the symbolic small horn “devour all the earth”?
24. What did a historian say about the British Empire’s being different?
25. (a) In its latest development, what constitutes the symbolic small horn? (b) In what sense does the “small” horn have “eyes like the eyes of a man” and “a mouth speaking grandiose things”?
26. What did the angel foretell about the symbolic horn’s speech and action toward Jehovah and his servants?
27. (a) Who are “the holy ones” persecuted by the “small” horn? (b) How did the symbolic horn intend “to change times and law”?
28. The “time, and times and half a time” are how long?
29. When and how did the prophetic three and a half years begin?
30. How were anointed Christians harassed by the Anglo-American World Power during World War I?
31. When and how did the “time, and times and half a time” end?
32. Why would you say that “the holy ones” were not wiped out by the “small” horn?
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New to the board... would like to share my experiences.. (sorry for length)
by oxygen8 inhey all!
i came upon this board as i was trying to find some social doctrine answers regarding jehovah's witnesses.
i've been looking over this board and feel i've found a new home.
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ithinkisee
Yes ... much support from a very sporgmatic group of people.
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