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Apostates protesting conventions = Something I laughed at

by free2beme in

jw
friends

sorry if there are those apostates here that do this, but you were often the butt of a joke and nothing taken serious.

i personally loved the ones who wore paper bags over their head, as they were often people still afraid of getting in trouble.

it is not like a political rally with people saying "make love, not war.

Check_Your_Premises

And if you are protesting, don't yell or scream. Just sit out and smile and wave to them as they pass by. Not a phony smart-assy type smile. A real, warm, genuine smile.

I have pictured making my "opposition" fully known to my wife eventually. My whole tack would be that I don't have any objections to the WT necessarily. I just want to make sure info is available. There were so many questions I had that I had to find out on my own. What could be wrong with making info available. What could be wrong with helping people to know what info is available.

Then I would drive with her to the convention or assembly. She would drop me off at the front gate with my signs that ask humble questions, and point to sites like Quotes, ajwrb, silent lambs, freeminds, and BRCI. I would sit outside. She would go inside. At lunch we would eat together. At the end of the day we would go home together.

Wouldn't that be hilarious?!?!?

CYP

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My website: www.reexamine.org

by reexaminer in

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friends

greetings.. i have started a project that i hope will stay online for times indefinate, even to times indefinate.

you can find it at www.reexamine.org .. i started working on it in october and it is still a work in progress, however because of the shut down of the website located at http://quotes.watchtower.ca i felt that i should release the site in "as-is" condition, instead of waiting until it was completely finished.. currently, there isn't a lot of content in the 'wiki' section of the website.

hopefully in the next few days and weeks that will change, however there are still programming issues that i have to work out before that can happen.

Check_Your_Premises

Great Job Re!

I think the key to your site and any site like quotes is that it is strictly informational.

No commentary is necessary.

Let the WT's own words condemn them.

CYP

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Quotes Mirror Sites: Attempt at Making a Single Place to Report Sites

by Check_Your_Premises in

it appears that the work around for the quotes site will be a long term effort.

as the wt plays whack-a-mole with the new sites that pop up, we need to know where the new ones pop up.. so here is my attempt to bring some order to this process.

let's make this a running thread where we put all our links to the mirror sites.. the downside is that the wt will know where to go to find out where the new sites are they have to squash.. the upside is that it is alot easier to put a site up then it is for the wt to take them down!!!.

Check_Your_Premises

Ok everything is a tradeoff.

If we make it harder for the WT to find the new sites that also means it is harder for us as well.

And really is it that hard for them anyway. They can just keep an eye on this site for all the new announcements about where to find the new site. I for one don't come here everyday, let alone look for the quotes website. I would like to be able to go to one spot to find the new sites.

One poster nailed it though. Really it is just a matter of setting the quotes site up offshore.

So who wants to move to Elbonia and setup the quotes mirror site?

Oh, I guess it isn't that easy.

CYP

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For those with bf or gf who are JW's: How the JW view non JW's

by Check_Your_Premises in

this thread is a quick primer for those who are fairly unfamiliar with the jw, but have found that they are dating someone who is or used to be a jw.

well just to give you a little background on how jw's view the rest of the non-jw world: they basically see you as a bug.

you are worldly and certain to bring their loved one death at the hands of god at armageddon.

Check_Your_Premises

No kidding! That's why old people are so smart!

Jgnat, I just realized you called me old again.

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Apostates protesting conventions = Something I laughed at

by free2beme in

jw
friends

sorry if there are those apostates here that do this, but you were often the butt of a joke and nothing taken serious.

i personally loved the ones who wore paper bags over their head, as they were often people still afraid of getting in trouble.

it is not like a political rally with people saying "make love, not war.

Check_Your_Premises

I think these protest (and any criticism of the WT for that matter) could be MOST effective if it simply provided information.

LEAVE THE COMMENTARY TO THE INDIVIDUAL!!!

That was (and is) the genius behind Quotes' site.

The WT is built on a foundation of bad or omitted information. All that has to be done is make that information known. That is it. There is no need to condemn the WT, their words and actions condemn themselves. Any philosophy that has as one of it's tenets that a group of people have a monopoly on absolute truth will always crumble under the weight of it's internal contradictions. The WT is no different.

So for a protest to be really effective, it would be good just to have some simple and humble signs (if that is possible) that say things like?

"Got Doubts? freeminds.org"

"Does Anybody Else Have These Questions? jehovahs-witness.org"

"If it is the truth should I fear asking questions? jehovahs-witness.org"

Stuff that ridicules or attacks or is snotty or condescending will only feed the cult genes.

It is difficult I know. We all have lost so much to this bunch. Our instincts are to attack. But nothing hurts the WT more then opening a closed mind.

CYP

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Starting a collection of the Inexplicable JW Doctrines...

by AuldSoul in

i am starting a collection of jw doctrines and practices that have no basis in the scriptures and (preferably) that the scriptures or secular history directly contradicts.

this isn''t a thread for arguing with scholar is he drops by.

i want as comprehensive a set as possible as part of a project i am working on, so even if you aren't sure of one, please toss it in the mix.

Check_Your_Premises

Wow you are feeling ambitious today!

Well one that always stuck in my craw was their boneheaded idea that nobody can understand the scriptures without them. To support this they use the story of the Ethiopian eunich who fatefully said, "how could I understand unless someone told me."

Of course when this happened the New Testament had not been written, and it would have been impossible for him to know of Christ's fulfillment of Isaiah unless someone actually told him. If this happened today the Ethiopian eunich could simply pick up a Bible, even a NWT, and find out who Jesus was.

Is that one, or is that more of an example of taking a verse out of context.

CYP

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How to (or not) handle the occasional JW who wanders in here

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

i originally thought of posting this thread last week when a thread was started last week: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/104099/1.ashx .

this girl didn't seem to realize the extent of the "apostasy" on this thread.

Check_Your_Premises

Ok, well now that I got you all agreeable...

How about we all take it upon ourselves to help police the boards. Wait how about we help "watch over the flock". Or maybe even "give encouragement".

No but seriously. If you see somebody laying into some unsuspecting JW who walks in here, maybe send them a friendly PM with a link to this thread just to remind them what this place is for. We are here to heal, and to vent our frustrations. But we also have a higher purpose and opportunity here.

And remember, nothing sticks it to the WT like helping to free a trapped mind.

(every time I inoculate someone from the tower, or help someone exit I put a notch in my Bible!)

CYP

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Quotes Mirror Sites: Attempt at Making a Single Place to Report Sites

by Check_Your_Premises in

it appears that the work around for the quotes site will be a long term effort.

as the wt plays whack-a-mole with the new sites that pop up, we need to know where the new ones pop up.. so here is my attempt to bring some order to this process.

let's make this a running thread where we put all our links to the mirror sites.. the downside is that the wt will know where to go to find out where the new sites are they have to squash.. the upside is that it is alot easier to put a site up then it is for the wt to take them down!!!.

Check_Your_Premises

It appears that the work around for the quotes site will be a long term effort. As the WT plays Whack-A-Mole with the new sites that pop up, we need to know where the new ones pop up.

So here is my attempt to bring some order to this process. Let's make this a running thread where we put all our links to the mirror sites.

The downside is that the WT will know where to go to find out where the new sites are they have to squash.

The upside is that it is alot easier to put a site up then it is for the WT to take them down!!!

Eventually they are going to mess with the wrong cat, it will go to court, and it won't matter anymore because they will lose. How the hell can it be a copyright infringement to display the crap that they run around trying to give to people in their pajamas on saturday mornings!

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How to (or not) handle the occasional JW who wanders in here

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

i originally thought of posting this thread last week when a thread was started last week: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/104099/1.ashx .

this girl didn't seem to realize the extent of the "apostasy" on this thread.

Check_Your_Premises

Actually that is really funny. I have always been the same way.

I usually beat them up pretty good when they show up here. Here is my latest victim: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/100319/1729274/post.ashx#1729274

But then after seeing about 40 or 50 of these doofus' coming through here, I noticed that everyonce in awhile some total rookie manages to get somebody out. The truth of the matter, is that sometimes the jw is dating them because they are already having doubts. All the rookie has to do is give them a little nudge.

So recently we got another one, and instead I posted this. (actually this is a repost that Lady Lee asked me to do for the best of section) I didn't pull any punches, I let her know how hard this all is. But who knows. Maybe she can do some good.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/20/104475/1.ashx

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Ridiculous "Revelation Climax" Book interpretations

by Black Man in

i used to be so into prophecy and actually loved the climax book when it first came out.

now, i can't believe i bought into that bs.

anyhow, name a ridiculous climax book interpretation.

Check_Your_Premises

Ok, so is there anybody who studied this book and didn't think it was total crap?

When was the last time they studied this book?

CYP

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