this weeks km is telling elders to arrange for group studies with people in local nursing homes, with instructions on how to word things when speaking to the directors etc.. they are clearly trying to get to people who may not be entirely able to think for themselves or who may lack critical thinking and yet may have money to leave to them.. what can you do?.
well, if you wanted to, write a short and simple letter or email to your local care home, perhaps directly even speak to the director yourself... warn them about the brainwashing and danger of breaking up of families etc.
the km says they should identify themselves as jw's... .
I need scan of the pages regarding nursing home territory from KM as I can not open the link above when it reqeust login I does not work for me can someone please scan and post on here. I am going to visit Mother in nursing home (in another state) in two weeks and I would like to read this first as I plan on meeting with the manager and give him a heads up on this plan.
Thank you
2014 regional convention:.
on friday, on the last speech of the morning, (the "key speech"), a bethel member slipped in some "new light" rather casually, without much fuss.
he mentioned the out-of-body experience of the apostle paul, in 2 corinthians 12:2-4, where he experienced being "caught up to the third heaven ... caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible words...".
Crazyguy I agree with you...just playing with the word Paradise and Heaven, still only going to be annointed 144K in heavenly paradise, JW current paradise in the WT Bubble and as always the earth will become a physical paradise.
But watch they will go into more detail with this new light this fall. They roll out the thought first at convention, followup in Sept or October with expanded understanding in study articles and the next spring finalize the change in study article, that way the JW will not catch on too quickly of the full change. Just like they did over a year or two period with the generation change.
Slick (or sick) buggers
hi.. is there anyway to change my password to this forum?
i can't seem to find the option anyhere.
would loike to chosoe a more secure one.. .
My password no longer works and when I sent email for new password it came back online name not user name which was and password
and all my emails are gone what is up with this?
dear friends,.
our dear friend, skyking started another thread which on the 3rd page he shared something so shocking, that i felt it deserved its own thread!!!
hope that's ok with you skyking!!
Definition of "Sanction" per Webster's II New College Dictionary:
n. 1. Authoritative approval or permission. 2. A measure, as moral pressure or a fine, imposed to ensure compliance or conformity. - v. To give approval or: authorize.
Of course they are going to say the one taking Blood is disassociating yourself by the action. But if you do not agree to disaccociate yourself then they do not have the permission or authority to do so BECAUSE there are "NO RELIGIOUS SANCTIONS".
So if someone was to take blood and the Elders annouce that you are "No Longer a Jehovah Witness" , yet in you had told the Elders that you are not giving them authority or permission to make such an annoucement; Then it would seem to appear to be slandering you because you are just being an "individual being free in his or her choice".
I doubt if Dennis Lindberg's Aunt knews about this, but perhaps it could have given her a different understanding or perhaps he would he have been better off living in Bulgaria rather than dying in the US.
Peace & Love,
Sheri
dear friends,.
our dear friend, skyking started another thread which on the 3rd page he shared something so shocking, that i felt it deserved its own thread!!!
hope that's ok with you skyking!!
You can link from Watchtower website directly to the European Human Rights Court and if you look for the Decision filed under Application number 28626/95 filed on 9/21/95 under name of Khristiansko Sdruzhenie "Svideteli na Iehova" (Christian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses) vs Bulgaria. You can read the entire decision which I previously tried to cut and paste from but did not work, so will quote in part:
"In respect of the refusal of blood transfusion, the applicant association submits that while this is a part of the religious doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses, Its acceptance depends on the personal choice of the individual concerned. There is no religious sanctions for a Jehovah's Witness who chooses to accept blood transfusion. Therefore, the fact that the religious doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses is against blood transfusion cannot amount to a threat to "public health", every individual being free in his or her choice."
So amazing that there is "NO RELIGIOUS SANCTIONS" if a Jehovah Witness chooses to accept blood, just blew my mind. So I called Brooklyn and asked about this and the brother on the phone asked if I was calling from Bulgaria. Which caused me to ask why would that matter unless he had to determine which side of his mouth he was going to be speaking from, thus did that mean there was one answer if Bulgaria caller and another if from US. I of course could not get a clear statement from him as he did not seem to have anything on Bulgaria in front of him. Seems to be that forked tongue and spiritual warfare again.
SO SAD but SO TRUE
Sheri
friends,.
i just confirmed the "generation" change from another forum in portuguese.
the following is the text in portuguese:.
I found it hard to accept the Generation change in 1995 but I did as told, prayed about it, left it in Jehovah's hands and didn't talk to many about my doubts. How grateful I am to be out of their CULT. I can only wonder what is going through the minds of some of my former friends that I know must be wondering what is going on. I only hope that they can remember a few of my statements on my way out of the Borg.
Peace & Love,
Sheri
so i am inactive for nearly 3 years now..... .
huge issues dealing with molestation of my children.... long sad and sordid tale of woe and devastating outcome .
i will confess to this.... for several years in the "truth" i was happy.
Welcome Chickpea,
Keep reading this site and educate yourself, especially about the true history of molestation in the society. Read Ray Franz books and you will find that your doubts/feelings are valid. It takes time and prayer to come to some peace of mind, althought after today reading the Generation Change/1935 I do feel my blood beginning to boil again as it did in 1995, so glad at this time I am out of their mind control.
Peace & Love,
Sheri
talking to a friend (ex-elder) today whose wife was (is) a close friend of mine .
she's still a jdub but won't talk to me now i'm df'd (apparently it hit her very hard when we left) and so she busied herself with ministry and meetings in search of comfort and affirmation of her faith.
this didn't work for her and she came out with an unexpected question... .
Where will You Go? That is what my friend asked me when I told her where I was spiritually and knew the WTS was not the sole channel. I really didnt know much more at that time other than I would not put everyone to death but JW's to death at the Big A.
When asked that I just said "who said I had to go anywhere" she had no response. I think the mind conditioning is if you are not one of us you have left God. I was just starting on a great journey that I am still on finding my God.
Peace & Love,
Sheri
first of all i would like to think everyone for the support i recieved yesterday.
i would also like to shed some light on my past, hopefully this does not give it away as to who i might be.
my wife and i were both raised as jw, we were both baptized when were fifteen years old.
FadingELD
My heart goes out to you. When I told my husband (not a JW but family that was) that I had doubts for several months and felt that this was not the True Religion, he was shocked and very surprised after 20+ years of me not pushing but letting him know he would benefit from this religion. Still he was dumbfounded that I really made this decision and really had not told anyone about what I had been going through. I can not tell you how much this has done to bring us together, we actually can talk and bounce questions on religion off of eachother. He said he knew it was pointless to discuss anything before because as a JW we are always right and everyone else is wrong.
I have also had several friends in the past few years with long history as JW's express their doubts and are most doing the fade, just as I have for reasons personal to each one. I have a dear friend that was actually my study conductor and brought me into the JW World. She has since gone to her sons and apologized for all that they put the kids through, out of 6 kids only one was left in the organization and he and his wife have faded as well. They all have shared with her now the personal hell they have endured being raised by an elder and pioneer and the effects it has had on them as young adults. I can truthfully say now they are coming together and sharing true love of fellowship and rebuilding their lives of a family that has unconditional love for eachother.
I encourage you to be true to yourself and help your sons realize they do have a choice to their own beliefs. I have shared much with my friend and she in turn has shared with her adult children, which in turns helps them deal with the ones saying they all have made a hugh mistake. Knowledge is the key to unlock the builtin guilt and doubt that over the years has been piled in our minds. I gave her a copy of CofC which has been passed on through the family.
You have made a wise decision and are now really able to search out what you really believe, I wish you well. I do hope that your wife will see you are still a person capable of being loved regardless of the JW organization. Assure her that you love her but that you need to be first honest with yourself and your personal relationship with God. As I told one person I am standing up for Jehovah and I will serve him with integrity and not through an organization that lies and manipulates people through the the WT and books. I have said I would return to the KH if I could find one WT that has not distorted truth in an article. I do read them online and when I do find one I usually can find a lie in an article or study. SAD but TRUE, a little research or check up on a reference will usually show the distorted slant to an article.
Sorry for the long post but keep true to yourself!!
Peace & Love,
Sheri
so i went to see prince in concert last night.
he was pretty good, but not at his best, and there was none of the witnessing crap that he's exhibited at past gigs.
I believe his Mother is a Witness, not sure if she is still alive, but he was raised around the JW mindset and I think lost of his child had a lot to do with his finally joining. When I use to go to the hall saw him a couple times when he was in the islands. Last time when he got married in Hana. Too bad he fell for the "False". The actor Terrance Howard, also his Mother is a witness and the influence has been there for years. Read interview with him and he thinks it's the truth but not ready to conform to the rules, too bad he has to put himself down for the Boys in Brooklyn.
Peace & Love,
Sheri
