If, in fact, they are now defining "The Christ" as Jesus and the 144 000 Anointed, this is only a partial return to Russell's teachings.
The Society used the term "The Christ, Head and Body members" until the early 1950's (so far as memory serves).
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Telling omission in 29 March WT study. They are taking over God's mind!!
by hamsterbait inpara 12:.
in that same prophecy jehovah told his chosen servant: "i shall safeguard you and give you as a covenant of the people."[...
that solemn promise provided assurance that god's faithful servant would continue as as a "light of nations," liberating those in darkness.. fair enough your average dub thinks.. but look at paragraph 3;.
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Required Reading (Before you become a JW)
by sacolton inthere would be no jws if these books were read first .... .
another gospel.
ruth a. tucker.
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bennyk
Highly recommended:
Jehovah's Witnesses: Their Claims, Doctrinal Changes, and Prophetic Speculation. What Does the Record Show? by Edmond C. Gruss
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Need WT quotes prior to 1914 about how bad the times were then...
by oompa innewbie lurk3r asked me about a post i made, this one: i was a bit surprised to read some pre 1914 wt's lately that spoke of how awful things were!.....now wt quotes scholars as to how incredibly peacful an wonderful it was prior to 1914....hipocrites.............oompa.
now i cant remember where i saw them at, and he wants to know....i would love a few quotes from them saying how awful times were between 1874 and 1914.....anybody know how to find this without actually reading a bunch of them?
i think i may have been browisng some and could tell from the article title that it was about the doom and gloom back then......... .
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OH, NO!!!!!! Things were so bad...
CAN IT BE DELAYED UNTIL 1914?
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Seventeen years ago people said, concerning the time features presented in MILLENNIAL DAWN, They seem reasonable in many respects, but surely no such radical changes could occur between now and the close of 1914: if you had proved that they would come about in a century or two, it would seem much more probable.
What changes have since occurred, and what velocity is gained daily! "The old is quickly passing, and the new is coming in."
Now, in view of recent labor troubles and threatened anarchy, our readers are writing to know if there may not be a mistake in the 1914 date. They say that they do not see how present conditions can hold out so long under the strain.
We see no reason for changing the figures-- nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. We see no reason for changing from our opinion expressed in the View presented in the WATCH TOWER of Jan. 15, '92. We advise that it be read again.
Watch Tower Reprints page 1677 (15. July 1894)
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Organ Transplants Bad->Good / Blood Transfusions Bad->Good ?
by still_in74 inso after all this what is acceptable and what is not?
acceptable.
not acceptable.
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bennyk
The possibility that the Organisation was moving toward considering blood transfusions a conscience matter was discussed a while ago; note the following (Thanks, Bulldozer):
***g73 6/8 p.15 Blood Transfusions - a Biological "Sin"***
Since the blood cells are normally destroyed in sixty days and the liquid content turnover is even more rapid, a blood transfusion is a temporary or a transient transplant of a liquid organ. Indeed, this is undoubtedly the reason for its general acceptance at a time when organ transplantation is considered experimental.
***g74 3/22 p.21 My Life as a Surgeon***
Blood transfusion is now recognized as a dangerous procedure-as hazardous as any other organ transplant.
***bq p.41 Jehovah's Witnesses and the Question of Blood***
Consequently, whether having religious objections to blood transfusions or not, many a person might decline blood simply because it is essentially an organ transplant that at best is only partially compatible with his own blood.
***hb p.8 Blood Transfusions - How Safe?***
a transfusion is a tissue transplant.
***g90 10/22 p.9 Gift of Life or Kiss of Death?***
As cardiovascular surgeon Denton Cooley notes: "A blood transfusion is an organ transplant. . . . I think that there are certain incompatibilities in almost all blood transfusions."
***g99 8/22 p.31 Are Blood Transfusions Really Necessary?***
Blood is an organ of the body, and blood transfusion is nothing less than an organ transplant.
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Perhaps this was intended to introduce a change in the Blood policy?
***g00 1/8 Pioneers in Medicine***
[Footnote]
Jehovah's Witnesses view organ transplant operations as a matter of individual conscience.
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1919? Where do they get that date?
by donny inrefresh my memory.
i know jw's teach that the fds was appointed in the spring of 1919, but where in the scriptures do they "support" this announcment?
i have a jw that wants to speak to me and i need to refresh my understanding.
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Proclaimers chap. 10 p. 137 Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth They also came to understand that it was in the year 1914 that Christ's invisible presence had begun and that this was, not by his personally returning (even invisibly) to the vicinity of the earth, but by his directing his attention toward the earth as ruling King.
So, according to the WTS, Jesus is now present; it's just that he isn't here... (?)
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Memorial Dating
by A&S inmemorial is supposed to be held on aviv(nissan ) 14 .
the following shows how it is determined .. the biblical year begins with the first new moon after the barely in isreal reaches the stage in its ripeness called abib (aviv) the period between one year and the next is either 12 or 13 lunar months .
because of this , it is important to check the state of the barley crops at the end of the 12th month .
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Yes. And under the old system, the month does not begin with the calculation of a new moon, but requires an actual sighting of a visible new moon (crescent). In the event of cloud cover, the first of the month was declared on the day following the calculated new moon. Therefore, we also cannot determine the first of the month in advance...
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How do you answer "you research just to criticize"?
by undercover inminimus' thread about research got me to thinking about a friend who recently accused me of researching just to purposely find something wrong so i could justify my actions (of becoming inactive).. how would you answer this?.
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"’Are we at the End of the World?’ was the subject of
Mr. Rutherford’s address. This was his first public appearance
in Brooklyn since the death of Pastor Russell.
"’Criticism of a man is hardly the proper course for a
Christian,’ he said, ’but criticism of a man’s teachings is always
proper. " (Watch Tower, 15. June 1917 [Reprints page 6104])
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How do you answer "you research just to criticize"?
by undercover inminimus' thread about research got me to thinking about a friend who recently accused me of researching just to purposely find something wrong so i could justify my actions (of becoming inactive).. how would you answer this?.
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"When anyone is replying to a matter before he hears [it], that is foolishness on his part and a humiliation."
Proverbs 18:13
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How do you answer "you research just to criticize"?
by undercover inminimus' thread about research got me to thinking about a friend who recently accused me of researching just to purposely find something wrong so i could justify my actions (of becoming inactive).. how would you answer this?.
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*** Awake! 84 8/22 p.28 From Our Readers***
We surely were not trying to take cheap shots at the pope or the Catholic Church, nor
were we criticizing Catholics. The Catholic Church occupies a very significant position
in the world and claims to be the way of salvation for hundreds of millions of people.
Any organization that assumes that position should be willing to submit to scrutiny
and criticism. All who criticize have the obligation to be truthful in presenting the facts
and fair and objective in assessing such. In both respects we try to live up to that
obligation.—ED.
*** The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life
chap. 2 p.13 par.5 Why It Is Wise to Examine Your Religion***
5 We need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught
by any religious organization with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in
full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are
lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination. It should be the
sincere desire of every one of us to learn what God’s will is for us, and then to do it.—John 8:32
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What the hell is "new light"?
by undercover inwhere did the term "new light" come from?
was this ever in print anywhere or just a phrase that was created by followers when trying to describe changes to official doctrine or policy?.
"truth" as "light" cannot change.
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WT February 1881 r188: page 3 “CAST NOT AWAY THEREFORE YOUR CONFIDENCE” para 1:
If we were following a man undoubtedly it would be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as darkness now: But with God there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning, and so it is with truth; any knowledge or light coming from God must be like its author. A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New light" never extinguishes older "light," but adds to it. If you were lighting up a building containing seven gas jets you would not extinguish one every time you lighted another, but would add one light to another and they would be in harmony and thus give increase of light: So is it with the light of truth; the true increase is by adding to, not by substituting one for another.