my husband and i are having a heck of a time coming up with the spelling for our new baby girl's name.
please pick the spelling you like and also the middle name you like and let me know.
my husband wants to go with the majority vote.. spelling of first name: reagan or reghan.
My husband and I are having a heck of a time coming up with the spelling for our new baby girl's name. Please pick the spelling you like and also the middle name you like and let me know. My husband wants to go with the majority vote.
Spelling of First Name: Reagan or Reghan
Middle Name: Reese or Brooke
Thanks to everyone who responds.
i have been away from "the truth" for quite some time (about 6 years) and i heard from my daughter and friend the other day that someone i knew back when had recently been disfellowshipped.
he was actually one of the elders on my original committee when i was having drama with that religion.
he was a good guy, always having gatherings at his house (superbowl, etc.
Swan: That's a great idea.
I think for the time being I will go with the suggestions to send and anonymous letter. It's annoying that I won't know whether or not he's responsive to it and whether or not he would like further support but at least I will feel I have done what I could without jeapardizing my relationship (if you could call it that) with my daughter's JW family.
Thanks all.
I will be sure to post the letter once I have gotten up the guts to write it
my darling sister came over friday night.
my husband was at a conference at work on friday night, and i thought it would be a nice time for my little sister (15 years younger) to come over, hang out, eat some popcorn, and watch a movie.
we changed into our jammies, rented "the village", and piled into my fluffy, decorative pillow ridden bed, to watch the movie.
To bad you couldn't draw a parallel between "The Village" and "The Organization". I so thought the whole mentality of that movie wreaked of JW logic.
i have been away from "the truth" for quite some time (about 6 years) and i heard from my daughter and friend the other day that someone i knew back when had recently been disfellowshipped.
he was actually one of the elders on my original committee when i was having drama with that religion.
he was a good guy, always having gatherings at his house (superbowl, etc.
I have been away from "the truth" for quite some time (about 6 years) and I heard from my daughter and friend the other day that someone I knew back when had recently been disfellowshipped. He was actually one of the elders on my original committee when I was having drama with that religion. He was a good guy, always having gatherings at his house (superbowl, etc.) and he just had problems with his wife forever. They eventually split up, he was removed as an elder and now a few years later he has decided he wants to be involved with someone (imagine that - lol). I heard his kids have moved out of the house, I know he was raised around that religion and he has gotta be having a really hard time of it right now. I want to do something to help him out but I'm not sure where he's at in his thinking and I don't want to open the df or da can of worms for myself at this point.
I faded, I am not df'd or da'd. I have no dealings with that religion. Only ties I have are through my daughter because her dad is in that religion and I have to deal with him and his family. It would be more difficult to deal with them if I am df'd or da'd and it would be harder on my daughter as well.
I was thinking I would drop off the COC book along with an anonymous letter but I have no clue as to what to say in the letter. How I can come off as sincerely being concerned that he see that there is life outside the borg, I am not just some randomn trying to slam the religion he was raised in and I am just wanting him to know he has worth, he can have a relationship with God and he is entitled to happiness. Hopefully, it might help him to eventually get his kids to come to terms with reality as well and he wont have to lose his entire family for good in this whole process.
What do you guys/gals think? What would you say? I am just worried for him...
ok i am a 16 year old female i love with a 16 year old male.
lol that sounds funny since everyone thinks a 16 year old can't be in love.
i understand why but let's face it now a days anything is possible.
I wish I would have made the decision you are going to make when I was 15! I was a caucasion non-JW dating a Mexican unbaptized 16 year old JW. His parents gave him lots of grief. He thought the JWs had the truth but he didn't want to live it. He was dating me and we were sleeping together. We were in love/infatuated. He was my first love.
I asked him so many questions and he was so vague. He resented me asking questions because I think he didn't really know the answers and it made him feel like he should have answers. We had been dating for 2 years (friends for a year prior to that) and he told me if I really wanted to know what his religion taught I should just study with them and find out for myself. Big mistake!
Long story short I ended up studying with the JWs and we both got baptized together about 6 months to a year later. We stopped having sex when I was studying (that was hard!) and we ended up dating for about 2 more years. It was really hard. His family resented me when I wasn't a JW and then even after we got baptized they gave us a hard time saying we were too young to date and we either needed to get married or break up. They wanted all our dates chaperoned. I was not ready to be married at 18 and I ended up breaking up with him.
Through all the drama with his family and that relition he never stood up for me and our relationship. It really took a toll on our relationship and the worst part is after breaking up I stayed in that religion because I believed all the bullshit they fed me. Being in that relition caused me to cut off ties with my family and all my non-JW friends, give up the tennis team and softball team in high school, pass up all the school dances, graduate highschool early by skipping my senior year and doing independant studies instead so I could pioneer (be a missionary) in their religion, I passed up college, I got married too young, I ended up divorced and expelled, shunned by all my JW friends and a single mom with a child to raise and a major ulcer!
As others have said here... Run!!!
Please learn from my experience so you don't have to learn for yourself. I know how hard that can be but I hope you will stick to it and do what is best for you and your boyfriend in the long run. The odds of it working and you being happy are slim to none. I know you love him. It was the hardest thing for me to break up with my boyfriend when he proposed at 18 because of the pressure to get married. It took a year for our relationship to finally really end. You can do it. I should have run as soon as I found out he was a JW. Would have saved me lots of pain over the years.
just a little background, my cousin is 38 and hasn't attended meetings for nearly 20 years.
then, a week later, another elder and the circuit overseer came knocking for the same reason, so she decided to go to the thursday night meeting.
then on sunday, she went for the talk, and was told she had an elder's meeting at 12:30 that afternoon.
That sounds similar to what happened to my sister-in-law. She had been divorced and out of the truth for years. All of the sudden one day the elders from the neighborhood she had moved to showed up at her doorstep wanting to setup a meeting. She was, and had been, living with someone. Her ex was the son of the PO where she used to live and even though her ex had been disfellowshipped quite some time ago for sleeping with someone else he spouted off to his dad one day something to the effect, "you won't talk to me and I got df'd so why isn't my ex who is living with someone df'd? How is that fair!" So what did daddy PO do? He contacted the local elders and told them she was living with someone and it was "stumbling" his son. What a load of crap! They held a meeting without her and df'd her. It's so ludicrous.
Granted... Don't quote me on this exactly but that's pretty much how it unfolded.
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according to wt policy have you committed the unforgivable sin and instantly destined for gehenna?.
does anyone have any info on this?
ValiantBoy said this, "There was a witness woman in Texarkana named Mattie that professed to be of the anointed. She was disfellowshipped for apostasy, but the decision was overturned on appeal. A few months later she was again before the committee for apostasy and disfellowshipped. She was disfellowshipped the whole time I lived ther (4 years). She seldomly missed a meeting, always turned in time and insisted that she was wrongly disfellowshipped. She was scorned by the congrgation. I even heard one pioneer sister say she had committed the unforgivable sin. I told the sis she'd feel funny if Mattie ever got reinstated. She said it'd never happen cause Mattie had grieved the holy spirit. Well... Matie moved to a different cong and was quickly reinstated. I never spoke to her and she died shortly after being reinstated. It a very sad situatuion." In another post...
Looks like it must be hard. Of course it always depends on the congregation you're in. Love the consistency in that organization. Talk about love, kindness and mercy.
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according to wt policy have you committed the unforgivable sin and instantly destined for gehenna?.
does anyone have any info on this?
I believe you are referring to sinning against the Holy Spirit. I think that's what they consider apostacy. From what I heard only Jehovah truly knows whether or not someone has committed the "unforgivable sin" such as they referred to Judas doing. I imagine the elders would have a tough time not reinstating someone who wanted to be reinstated.
They could, of course, make it difficult but even Paul was eventually accepted into the fold after everything he did to God's people so how could they keep a mere apostate out?
I have never seen the answer to your question in the literature though...
this is my first forum post though i've been out here reading yours for a while.
i didn't know how to post my bio.
i became a jdub at the age of 16. i had a child out-of-wedlock who was 1 year old at the time and i was searching for answers - i wanted my son to have a future and the one the witnesses portrayed was better than anything i'd ever heard!
Welcome Sweet Tee
So what are you doing with your kids? Are they still going with their dad to meetings?
Your story resembles mine. Loved the concept of the paradise, which seemed to overshaddow all the wacko teachings eventually introduced. Jumped right on the fastrack to pioneering and skipped college. Married a witness man who had no ambition, sat on the couch all day and didn't work (didn't even want to pick up his damn employment check!). He eventually went back to mommy and daddy after I left him and that religion and there he still lives working for daddy and becoming an elder - LOL.
I just keep trying to figure out how to help my poor confused daughter who is still going to meetings and out in service when she's with dad but I'm so happy to be away from that drama religion!
i am home today and tomorrow per doctor's orders and i was shocked that of all days, today two jws knocked at my door for the first time in almost 4 years.
they will be back on saturday morning at 10 o'clock.
to you all here, both non and ex jws, and to any lurking jws, i ask the question... what is the difference between a servant of jehovah and a disciple of christ, if any at all?
Why thank you jgnat. I just kept thinking about when I was a JW and I truly felt everything I said and everything I was taught was in the Bible. I could turn to many scriptures to prove a point and I sincerely thought I had the cure to cancer, which I needed to share with everyone else. I just didn't realize how much you can be mislead by interpretations, opinions and elaborations. I guess 3 times through the Revelation Book in bookstudy can do that to a person - . Now I feel like I'm getting to know my Bible all over again... It's much easier, much less stressful and much less painful this time around though!
I probably would have left the organization sooner had an elder said to me what he said to rwagoner. That would have been absolute drama for me and yet it would have been a blessing in disguise.
