The cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "Christ comming what does it mean to you?" I think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that Jesus already came in 1914. The article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future. Isn't this deceptive? seek2find
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For Lurkers: Is the cover of the March 15th Watchtower deceptive?
by seek2find inthe cover of this issue pictures a group of modern day people standing looking up as if looking to the sky and the title says something like "christ comming what does it mean to you?
" i think it's deceptive because witnesses teach that jesus already came in 1914. the article is talking about his comming to exucute the wicked and does not even mention 1914, but the photo and title on the cover would lead people to beleive that his comming is still in the future.
isn't this deceptive?
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Wagner - inspired kingdom melodies???
by Kudra ini'm just listening to some classical music online at work and the piece "die meistersinger, overture" is on- so many of its phrases (or whatever you call little sections of the song) are totally the same as some kingdom melodies... .
right now i can hear "look i am making all things new" (or whatever the actual title is) in wagners piece.... .
aaaiiigh.
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If memeory serves me correctly, wasn't the song that was sang at a German assembly back in the Hitler erra set to the same tune as the German National anthem? seek2find
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JWs: Saying One Thing But Doing Another
by minimus injws say to do research in society publications and the bible but when you do research and see something that doesn't make sense that is being taught, and you question it----you are told not to research and leave things in jehovah's hands so that he can help you to understand things according to his will.
if you research or even read an older publication printed by "the slave", and you express that there is a different thought or viewpoint or even a "flip-flop" in understanding, you will be counseled to keep such observations to yourself.. have you seen examples of jws telling you to do one thing but in reality doing just the opposite?.
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Maximus, This is a good question and one that I think lurkers and doubters need to really think about. They (the Society) like to encourage people to research there on Religion, but only if it's another one besides being a witness. In that case (DON'T DO ANY RESEARCH!! trust everything and doubt nothing). Then again there is the counsel to always speak the truth.... Unless your a parent involved in a child custody issue, or if you're an elder on the witness stand and are ask if there is a child custody packet or if ... Oh well you get my drift. It's OK not to be truthfull ONLY if not doing so will make the Orginization look better. Double standards are one of my biggest pet-peeves. seek2find
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Mouthy, I watched it on the web this morning and she did a great Job. I thought it was really cool that the Camera focused on her Bible that was oppened to proverbs chapter 3. Because I've been thinking about that very chapter this last week. John 8:32 has really proved true to her. I'm really happy for her. seek2find
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Another letter from the Disfellowshipped JW
by reneeisorym into those of you who followed the last post about the idiot who keeps e-mailing me -- he keeps sending me more letters even though i quit sending him letters.. .
good morning renee: i expect you will be reading this early when you come to work.
these are trumped up charges just like they did to jesus and the apostles by those who hate jehovah and his flock.
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This dude seems to have an abnormal facination for sexual topics which may or may not be typical of some JW's. (I've known both types) At any case, it sounds like he has stero-typed you as some sort of pervert (without any knoweledge of what he's talking about) and is trying to link that to your leaving the orginazation. If I were you I wouldn't respond to him any more. Just my oppinion. seek2find
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This Guy Hits the Nail Squarely - worth a listen for lurkers and faders.
by AK - Jeff inhttp://www.joncourson.com/teaching/teachings-topicalindex.asp?topic=cults.
play the one called 'characteristics of cults'.
i have listened to this several times - it has aided my healing.
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I have been somewhat impressed by the Calvary Chapel story. I think the story can be learned about in a book avalible on line called "Harvest" by Chuck Smith, I read quite a bit, though not all. It is a collection of real life experiances starting with Chuck himself and then other associates of his. Greg Laurie was one and there are some others, but I can't remember their names right now. Anyway it's a good read and I do recomend it. seek2find
Edited: here is the link to Harvest
Jeff I Just noticed Jon Courson story is one of the ones told in the book.
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This Guy Hits the Nail Squarely - worth a listen for lurkers and faders.
by AK - Jeff inhttp://www.joncourson.com/teaching/teachings-topicalindex.asp?topic=cults.
play the one called 'characteristics of cults'.
i have listened to this several times - it has aided my healing.
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Hi Jeff, You and others might also enjoy some of the messages of Greg Albregt at www.ptm.org he comes from a cult background and speaks a lot about "religious leagalism" seek2find
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Elder quits meetings
by buffalosrfree ini received good news from my daughter, it was amazing to her, but she informed me that she met an old friend from a congregations we attended 10 years ago, and the upshot was that the friends partents no longer attended meetings.
he her dad had been an elder the last i talked with him, he had left the congregation we were in due to the attitude of other elders there, went to a new congregation and the last i heard was very happy there.
we had had conversations about various aspects of the supposed truth and he always tried to counsel me about the troooth as spouted by the pharasies then.
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Mouthy, I couldn't agree more with your comment. It's sad when some do as Ann Landers used to say and "Throw out the baby with the bathwater" Just because the organization may be wrong, it's no excuse to give up on God. seek2find
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Why don't YOU believe anymore?
by Crumpet insomeone on another site was asking "what if they are right?
" which made me think about why i know that they are not and i wondered what was your epiphany or road to damascus moment or moments that just made you realise - hey i've been led up the garden path here!.
here was my response but i really think a list of reasons on one thread for easy reference for newbies would be good.
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Hi Crumpet, If the question is why I don't beleive in "Gods Organization" anymore, it's because there are to many things that don't add up. 1914, 1975, 144,000 ect. I was once naive and gullable when I first got online in 1995. I was "right" and all the apostates were "wrong". But the more I read the more I learned that things aren't always black and white and there is more than one way of seeing things. I glad I learned what I did, I just wish others around me would see it also. seek2find
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POLL: Would You Ever Consider Going Back To The Organization?
by minimus inyes, no or maybe....and why?
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I haven't succesfully escaped yet. Probally won't. If someone offered me a oneway ticket out with no possible return that wouldn't drasticaly affect those whom I love. I'd take it. I don't think that's in the offing tho, So I play the hide and seek game. Living a double life. seek2find