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  This makes me sad. ._.

  by Apathy in

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  http://www.livejournal.com/community/praisejahyouppl/ .

  http://www.livejournal.com/community/jw_poets/ .

  the worst thing is that these people could all be really nice if they weren't dubs.

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  jaffacake

  Yes, sad, I had to stop reading when I saw the misuse of the word 'truth':

  Truth: the state or quality of being true

  Error: a departure from the truth in a statement or in a belief

  Err: to make a mistake, to be wrong

  Under the dictionary definitions “the truth” cannot contain “errors”; truth and error are incompatible. This would suggest that truth also means infallible.

  If something described as “the truth” yesterday is acknowledged as error today, was it ever “truth”? By the same token, if “the truth” is what is being taught today, does that mean it will never be considered as “error” in the future?

  If we are not very careful, the concept of truth could become pretty meaningless, and just about anyone could claim to be in “the truth”. I need to understand exactly what is meant by people who claim to be in “the truth”. Rightly or wrongly, my own feeling is that “truth” must be absolute and unchanging. When Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life...” I believe he meant an unchanging, eternal truth. What is the Watchtower’s definition of “the truth”?
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  Question

  by 5thGeneration in

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  why are the seventh day adventists growing faster than jw but we still boast 16 billion (something like that) hours in field ministry as being so important and proof that our work brings so many into the truth?.

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  jaffacake

  I was a baptised SDA and went door to door. I don't believe we were a cult, but then again it depends on the definition. I think JWs are borderline cult.

  There are many Christian religions growing faster than JWs. JWs only carry out less than half of one percent of world missionary gospel work, and have a dismal record in terms of translating scriptures into other languages, or breaking new ground in the world. It was so called Christendom that took the gospel all over the world & translated into 2000 languages, not the JWs
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  Question Two

  by jaffacake in

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  question 2a

  whose witnesses must we be?

  question 2b .

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  jaffacake

  Trevor, no worries - lol

  “You are my witnesses.” Isaiah 43:10 -

  But the quote you offered was from the OT, and was one addressed to the natural Jews. The New Testament changed everything forever.
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  Question One

  by jaffacake in

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  apologies for non-jws & non-christians, but this is a quiz for my newly baptised jw friends.

  any jw guinea pigs willing to try it out before i hand it over?

  the bible alone (ideally the nwt) should be used to test your answers.

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  jaffacake

  Wow, thanks Blondie.

  I notice the JWs try to deny what the Bible says, but cannot do so using scriptures, just their own assertions.
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  Live on a paradise earth full of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by wanderlustguy in

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  isn't that an oxymoron?

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  jaffacake

  I responded that I would rather live a short life on this earth free of the WTS than live forever with the people at the KH.

  Blondie

  couldn't they DF you for that?
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  3 hour tour - my sd interrogation.

  by wordlywife in

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  my poor step-daughter went through what is called a jc meeting, 3 hours worth.

  they have given her a week to decide before they df her.

  she is only 18. gads.

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  jaffacake

  Worldlywife asked about scriptures emphasising love rather than judgement.

  In some parts of the Bible God appears to be vindictive, in other parts he appears as loving and merciful. What is the true nature of God, and which example should we follow?

  It is the Bible as a whole that gives the meaning to its parts. Does the 'God is Love' overrule the vindictive God? What commandments sum up the law & prophets (OT)?
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  Evolutionist Caught in a Lie

  by Kenneson in

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  eugenie scott of the national center for science education has written a retraction, after being slapped with a libel suit.

  she wrongly accused roseville, california attorney larry caldwell of presenting for adoption to the school board two books on young-earth creation, one (get this!

  ) published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  jaffacake

  Hib,

  Do you know how much you sound like a JW, but the most extremely dogmatic JW that one could meet.

  I'm sorry if this offends, as I am sure you would alter your approach if you could see how you appear to the rest of us.

  Don't you see that you have the exact opposite effect to that which you intend. Perhaps this activity will bolster your pride and ego, and you will go to bed convincing yourself you have stood up and been counted for the Lord.
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  Evolutionist Caught in a Lie

  by Kenneson in

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  eugenie scott of the national center for science education has written a retraction, after being slapped with a libel suit.

  she wrongly accused roseville, california attorney larry caldwell of presenting for adoption to the school board two books on young-earth creation, one (get this!

  ) published by jehovah's witnesses.

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  jaffacake

  The story of the bible clearly says that adam was the first man and eve the first woman created from the dust of the earth

  Heathen,

  But even JWs teach that much of the Bible is symbolic. Much is also metaphor. Most Christians don't believe Adam was literally the first man, or a literal serpent spoke to Eve. You really must study the context, and interpret using established principles of comprehensiveness, sublation, and interpretation.

  I recommend the Oxford Bible Commentary

  At least you have clearly read some stuff opposing your viewpoint.
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  Another life.. another.. birth. :)

  by GetBusyLiving in

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  would you do it all differently if you could?

  do you think your absurd experience has added anything to your life?

  are we supposed to be ex-jw's?

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  jaffacake

  
  
  Hib, I read with embarassment and appeal for a little Christian love.
  

  
  
  What if you have fundamentally misunderstood scriptures? You appear too proud even to consider that possibility.
  

  
  
  When Paul classified acts of sinful nature (Gal 5:19-20) these were not moral rules prohibiting specific practices. They were written by the very same person that said that written rules kill, we must live by the spirit (see 2 Cor 3:6).
  

  
  
  In the Greek there were refernces to general sexual practices that dishonour human dignity or break human relationships. Paul classifies as wrong anything that impacts on personal relationships of integrity, respect, trust and loyalty. These are contrasted with the fruits of the spirit.
  

  
  
  If you choose to believe the Bible teaches the things you have said on this thread then be consistent, and say that women should be stoned to death for adultery, or the death penalty should apply for disobedience to parents. If you follow scholarly Biblical interpretation, you will find it teaches the opposite to what you think about many things.
  

  
  
  But you are so sure you understand what the Bible teaches! I'm waiting for the considered response....
  

  
  
  
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  Do you believe in miracles?

  by hibiscusfire in

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  i believe in miracles.

  even the birth of a new born is a miracle.. there is no such thing as luck.. hibiscusfire

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  jaffacake

  I've had more than 50 yrs to think about it, Jaffa. And I didn't stutter.

  Noel, I'm not far behind you!

  Some folks seem to see miracles everywhere, much the way JWs and others see 'signs of the last days' oe 'demons' and the like. If we choose to be extremely selective, and have made our minds up about everything, then we will see just what we want, what we believe in and therefore what we expect to see.

  This reminds me of non believers who see normal coincidences as psychic powers and the like. It seems to me most of the world is superstitious, but some call it religion.

  Hibs - a question:

  If some of these wonderful things you describe as miracles happen to wicked people, which they do, do you still call it a miracle, or something else?