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  Can a JW be disfellowshipped because of "Materialism"?

  by JH in

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  keeping in mind these verses below:.

  for we have brought nothing into the world, and neither can we carry anything out.

  8 so, having sustenance and covering, we shall be content with these things.

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  Materialistic JWs?............thinking out loud.........

  Perhaps they should all be disfellowshiped for having a hope of paradise earth, which from my Christian perspective is materialism couched in spiritualistic terms.

  The Watchtower descriptions I have read - lovely homes, good food to eat etc etc all appeal as much to the physical, material senses that to anything non physical and truly spiritual.

  As a believer, I am convinced that this life is the only physical life humans get. If there is any experience to follow, which I believe, albeit with an element of doubt, it will surely be purely non physical, consistent with the common understanding of scriptural teaching as well as science.

  Surely, this is our 'one shot' at a physical existence. We should make the best of it, if not for ourselves, for our children and fellow humans, whether or not there is some form of experience to follow. Paradise earth is an unscriptural 'worldly' and materialistic modern, man-made theory.
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  Suggestions Please

  by nonjwalltheway in

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  my wife and i have been married for over 10 years and we have three sons.

  she grew up in a jw family.

  he sisters, brother, mother, aunts, uncles and other extended family are mostly jw.

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  NonJW...

  Hard for me to add to what others have said, except to say welcome, and best wishes in your quest. Many of us are trying to expose the organisation to our loved ones. I have made mistakes, through the wrong, angry, impatient approach.

  Seven's advice was great. Above all, love your wife, you never know when something very small will make a difference, if not now, later.

  Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on.

  Some of us can recommend some excellent reading, hopefully for both of you. What, if anything might she be persuaded to read. If not from 'apostate' sources, how about non JW related books that might have the same effect. Between us we have a mountain of information on this site from official JW publications that expose the organisation, if only she will take a peek...Regards
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  SUPERBOWL AND THE JWS

  by Mary in

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  someone posted on another thread: the cong.

  i came from we were not allowed to watch football though i'm sure some did on the sly.

  football was likened to the christians being torn apart at the coliseum.

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  Mary

  We are keen on football (soccer) in England.

  When my friend was being 'groomed' by a JW elder, before his baptism, I suggested we go to the pub (as usual) to watch the football match. However, he was invited to the elder's home to watch the football there instead, on his new large plasma screen TV.

  So I assume watching football is fine, so long as you don't do it with 'worldly' people, and so long as you don't enjoy it too much. I have visions of stifled celebrations when a goal is scored.
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  Can you celebrate your 100th birthday when you are a JW?

  by blondie in

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  as a devout jehovah's witness, mrs. merle is prohibited from celebrating her birthday.

  but a week from tomorrow, relatives and friends will flock to the camoset village country living mobile home park in johnstown to attend a super bowl party that just happens to feature ice cream and cake.. "that's why we're calling it a super bowl party," explained her son bob merle, 73, who lives just five trailers down the road.

  "we don't celebrate birthdays, but we have to celebrate 100 years," said mrs. mechem, 78.

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  WTS hypocrites.
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  Who would've thought that in ten years..

  by jojochan in

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  i would be here speaking my mind as a normal human being.

  i was thinking about that a second ago and wanted to share that thought.

  ten years ago i was confronting a close freind of mine about why he was parting from the collective, of course he had valid reasons to be agnostic at the time.

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  jojo

  My lifelong friend was like a brother to me from age 12 to 47. We were best man for each others weddings, godparents to each others kids. Real close friends, closer than brothers.

  I lost that friendship in the past year or so because he became a JW. I wonder if he'll find out the truth in 10 years from now? Then we can be buddies again at the age of 57.

  Take care!
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  ALL SCRIPTURE 'INSPIRED' BY GOD......

  by Mary in

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  this doesn't make alot of sense to me, because the word "inspire" can have alot of different meanings, as i've copied from the merriam-webster online dictionary below.

  while i definitely believe in god, i think that #5 is probably closer to the truth.

  if i write a book or a song and say i was inspired by elvis, that doesn't mean that elvis wrote it or even approved it-----it simply means that i wrote it with him in mind.

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  jaffacake

  I believe the Bible to be, not man's account of his effort to find God, but rather an account of God's effort to find to reveal Himself to man; God's own record of His dealings with men, in His unfolding revelation of Himself to the human race; the Revealed Will of the Creator of Man, given to Man by the Creator Himself, for instruction and Guidance in the Way's of Life.

  Rook

  I enjoyed your post. I could probably concur with what you wrote above. However, I suspect that same words convey different meanings to me than they do to you.

  For example, I agree with the words "for instruction and Guidance in the Ways of Life" but utterly reject the idea that this means any form of rule book.

  Also when you refer to God speaking to humans, again I won't quarrel with your terminology, unless you mean a human-like voice heard by the ears of the prophets etc.
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  Who Has Read..'Bible Code 2 The Countdown'?

  by Legolas in

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  i am only on page 23 and so far i must say wow

  it has predicted, for the year 2006, a an atomic holocaust!

  i will keep posting ...lol...every time i find something interesting!

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  Lego

  I'm with lone ranger. My mother read the bible code books. They can look impressive til the tricks and cheats are exposed.

  Please don't come here in 2007 and tell us all about the new light (bible code 3?) with the holocaust being postponed a few years. No doubt the author will tell you its your fault for having false expectations!
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  I just signed up for a bible study...need help!

  by lucifer in

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  okay i found the official website for jw's and there was a place you could sign up for a free book study, so i did.

  now i'm not sure if they will actually contact me once they see its me.

  i'm doing this because when i da'd my mom wrote the letter and i didn't care/know about all their lies, i really hate that i wasted 8 years in this cult and want the elders in the congregation to explain big time!

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  I would like a study too, but they've got my name and address and I suspect I'm blacklisted since they dumped me last time.

  Perhaps using a false name? But I'd have to change address.

  If you do start a study, go real slow, research one topic at a time...
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  Richie: Taken in the Back...

  by RichieRich in

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  if you haven't already, please read the thread richie's elders: deaf?

  dumb?

  if you haven't read it, you won't get the following.. so last wednsday night, after the fine spiritual feast prepared by the governing body and delivered by their "spirit appointed" waiters, i was approached by an one of the brothers who served on my judicial committee.

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  jaffacake

  Way to go Ritchie.

  btw I thought this thread title was gonna be a sequel to the one by PMJ about homosexuality
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  ALL SCRIPTURE 'INSPIRED' BY GOD......

  by Mary in

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  this doesn't make alot of sense to me, because the word "inspire" can have alot of different meanings, as i've copied from the merriam-webster online dictionary below.

  while i definitely believe in god, i think that #5 is probably closer to the truth.

  if i write a book or a song and say i was inspired by elvis, that doesn't mean that elvis wrote it or even approved it-----it simply means that i wrote it with him in mind.

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  A Warm Welcome ezra,

  Not sure I get the point about tense...does this alter the meaning in your opinion?