Posts by crazycate

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Jan. 15th WT- Go to Meetings to Fight the Blues- Eliminate other Activities

by flipper in

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our jw contact sent us the " witness only " wt's again and i just had to make a thread on this mind numbing article.

starting on pg.22 in the jan.15th it deals with " coping with discouragement ".

it seems lots of jw's are under intense stress these days ( can you blame them ?

crazycate

If a one-legged blind diabetic moron can pioneer, why can't you? Oh the guilt, the guilt.

Guilt is exhausting. And a very powerful tool. I can remember feeling "good" that I made it to the meeting despite being exhausted and having a crashing headache. But why? Because then I didn't have to feel guilty.

Everyone at the meetings will talk about how refreshing the meetings are...how wonderful they make them feel (you are refreshed because I SAY you are refreshed), but for a reality check, see how they react to the news that a meeting has been canceled due to weather. Everyone is THRILLED. They get to stay home in their jammies, in front of the fire, relaxing. Oh the joy, all that and NO guilt.

My favorite new expression from this thread, "Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining." Right on!

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Personal Background Part 2: the basics of being a JW

by JeffT in

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i posted this thread about my novels.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204976/1/some-info-on-my-novels-and-a-question-for-the-board.

in response to some questions from my writer's circle (non jw's) i am trying to explain witnesses to them.

part one considered how i became a jw, this is about the basics, if you think of stuff i need to add, let me know.

crazycate

I've enjoyed reading both parts. It is difficult to explain to someone who has never been a Witness the extent of the control. Fear played a huge role in our lives--fear of being "invited" into the back room, fear of being reproved (aka publicly humiliated), fear of being disfellowshipped.

You are doing a good job. Looking forward to your next installment.

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Personal Background Part 2: the basics of being a JW

by JeffT in

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i posted this thread about my novels.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204976/1/some-info-on-my-novels-and-a-question-for-the-board.

in response to some questions from my writer's circle (non jw's) i am trying to explain witnesses to them.

part one considered how i became a jw, this is about the basics, if you think of stuff i need to add, let me know.

crazycate

Freudian slip? "...a good gripe on the reality" LOL

Now I'll read the rest.

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I am new here too!

by NVR2L8 in

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for a long while i have been coming to this site on a daily basis and i think it is time to introduce myself.

here we go: my parents learned the truth when i was 4 and i don't have childhood memories of how life was before they converted.

i was a model jw child, although quite mischievous at school.

crazycate

The things that eventually got to you are the same things that eventually got to me. I couldn't imagine going door-to-door saying, you know what I've been telling you for 30 years about the 1914 generation still being alive when the end comes...well, forget that. I know I said I could prove it from the Bible but, turns out I can't. Ha ha. Cough, cough.

Hope things work out well for you.

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picture of JW child baptism ... link to news paper

by Aussie Oz in

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i won't post the picture as it may breach some copyright or something.

here is the link.

http://www.caller.com/photos/galleries/2010/aug/21/jehovahs-witnesses-baptism/.

crazycate

One of the last straws for us was a brother in our hall who was pressuring, pressuring, pressuring our teenage children to get baptized. Even going behind our backs to talk to them about it. I tried the analogy that if they were too young to get married, and baptism is considered an even more important step to take, then they were too young for that. I tried pointing out that Jesus, our exemplar, didn't get baptized until he was 30. Nothing worked to stop this pressure.

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Some info on my novels, and a question for the board

by JeffT in

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crazycate

You write well and I enjoy good writing. I would be interested in your essay. I don't know that I could help you with it, but I bet there are others here who would be willing to take the time and offer suggestions.

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Watchtower Study (1/16/2010)

by FrankWTower in

i was just going over this week's wt study and i found this paragraph (p. 6) that i found so mind boggling, that i want to share:.

as mentioned in the preceding article, a fundamental goal that you can set is to prove to yourself that what is said in the bible is true.

(rom.

crazycate

Proving to yourself is a good idea. The problem is that, according to a KM from not too long ago (can't find it right now), the only publications you should use for research and the only ones you need are the WT publications.

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How credible is the wt claim to be chosen by Christ in 1919.

by coffee_black in

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i brought this up to debator on another thread... and he/she ignored it... thought the subject deserved its own thread...for anyone who has never read the finished mystery.. .

the watchtower claims that jesus inspected the churches in 1919 and chose the watchtower to represent god on earth, based upon the spiritual food they were dispensing at that time.. .

note:.

crazycate

Good points and information. Thank you. It is so hard to talk about this with them. When someone won't even look at their religion's own history, how do you proceed?

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How credible is the wt claim to be chosen by Christ in 1919.

by coffee_black in

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i brought this up to debator on another thread... and he/she ignored it... thought the subject deserved its own thread...for anyone who has never read the finished mystery.. .

the watchtower claims that jesus inspected the churches in 1919 and chose the watchtower to represent god on earth, based upon the spiritual food they were dispensing at that time.. .

note:.

crazycate

Excellent thread. I have a question: I can hear my family reply that it doesn't matter WHAT they were teaching, what matters is that they were the only ones alert and looking forward to the establishment of God's kingdom. But I am sure there were other groups as well, such as the one that Russell was originally associated with. Does anyone have any documentation proving this, or do I have to do my own dashed research?

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Comment on CA from JW

by purplesofa in

had my ca last weekend.

it was interesting,here what i got out of it, without giving spoilers, because i know they are not all the same.

but it seems to me, that due to the new understandings a lot of friends are letting their guard down.possibly thinking, "well, if they change in doctrine once, who knows they might change again".

crazycate

"Spirit directed" is meaningless. Either the holy spirit guides you--in which case you are doing as God directs and there should be no errors, or you are making a guess--in which case people shouldn't be punished for disagreeing with you.