Just a question. If they are dead how are you mixing in company with them?
Moanzy
after reading a post by jwfacts the other day i am wondering how far a "devout" jw's would go to followering the wts rules on shunning.
if a "devout" jw's df'd/da'd child suddenly died would that jw's go to the funeral?
i just cannot believe a person can be so cruel or brainwashed as to not attending their own child's funeral.
Just a question. If they are dead how are you mixing in company with them?
Moanzy
after reading a post by jwfacts the other day i am wondering how far a "devout" jw's would go to followering the wts rules on shunning.
if a "devout" jw's df'd/da'd child suddenly died would that jw's go to the funeral?
i just cannot believe a person can be so cruel or brainwashed as to not attending their own child's funeral.
Before I DAd my mom told me she would not go to my husbands funeral if it was in a church. She will not go into a church lest she be sharing in Babylon The Great and her sins. Soooo guess where I want my funeral and my childrens?
I'm sure she would come if I had it at a funeral home.
Moanzy
in another thread it was mentioned the witnesses do not shun disfellowshipped relatives, so i thought i would copy a few articles that show the watchtower says quite definitely that they are to almost totally shun relatives, along with some examples that i know personally.
i personally know many that have not been contacted by their parents for years;my cousin was my best friend, and for a year before my disfellowshipping week after week i spent hours with her and her child, who spent 4 months of his first year in hospital.
on the day of my disfellowshipping i was informed that i am no longer welcome there, and i have not seen my second cousin for 6 months now.
I was shunned at my gramas funeral. My uncle and an aunt were absolutely rude to my husband and I when we showed up at the farm. My aunt couldn't believe that I even came because "they"were all grieving. I think I was about 23yrs old.
I have been DAd for three years this July and I have heared from my mom 3 times. They came to see the kids twice and phoned once. The second time they came to our house they had another sister with them and she wouldn't come in so they stayed for about half and hour or so.(they told us she was tired----trying not to stumble my husband)
Mom called me a couple of months ago to tell me she was in an accident. She broke a couple vertabrae in a slip and fall. Apparently my brother and wife were in an accident almost a year before. What is so weird is she called about her stupid accident, but it wasn't necessary to call me at the time of my brothers accident.
I wasn't invited to my other brothers wedding either. Not even a "wish you could come, but....." They just didn't even inform me of when or where the wedding was.
Moanzy
here is a few pics of our home...they are not very good though ...lol...i don't have any pictures up yet, most of my plants are setting on my table (still), some stuff is still out in the moving van and our grass is not in and garage is not built (the cut lumber in our yard is going to be milled and used for our deck and garage)!
kitchen.
here's our back yard ...but since we faced the home inwards..i guess it's our front yard!..lol.
Legolas,
I just have to tell you how beautiful your home is. So lucky to be in the country!!! We just bought our home a year ago and are looking for something in the country.
I can just imagine living where you are or at least something like it. By the way----we have the same cookie jar
Moanzy
did that question make you feel anger?
did you automatically say "no way, never?
i've been reading a little bit about what anger, resentment & bitterness does to our health.
I'm really really really trying!!! I think I could if I had all my family out and they were normal. I think it is way past repairable even if all my family figured it out.
Moanzy
i want to hear as many ideas as possible for items/gifts of mercy to hand out to witnesses when they knock at the front door.
to be fair, in exchange for their wonderful literature that is the "truth", i think it fair to return the favor with some "truth" items of our own as a gift to them!
any suggestions?
I'm waiting for the oportunity to give them the new Torte of misrepresentation on blood.
Moanzy
i was wondering how many of you eat raw garlic daily?
i have begun to start again, after a short break from it.
i have noticed that i am breathing much better since starting again...it truly is a first defense against all kinds of diseases and bacteria.. let me know friends.. boo key
When I quit eating garlic I noticed I had more friends.
Moanzy
i normally try not to moan and belly ache here, but today i'm really down.
the other day i was kidding and joking about being "socially-challenged", it can be fun to do this... but sometimes it catches up to me.
i spend the vast majority of my evenings and weekends alone... movies, restaurants, community events, parties, you name it.
You sound really self-conscious about your ability to socialize. Something I did as an experiement is just go and observe people socializing and just watched the exchanges.
Something I figured out is that it's not all one-sided. Some of us who are aware that we find it difficult to socialize don't realize that there are many people out there that make it absolutely hard to socialize with them.
This realization made whole lot of difference in my expectations when approaching a person. I've found more awesome people than I ever have before and the ones that turned away or pre-judged or whatever probably were not the kind of people I would want in company anyway.
Hope this is helpful
Moanzy
maybe i need to start a journal or something to help sort my thoughts .
it seems like right now i have to many things to deal with at once and i don't know how to slow down and take one issue at a time .
this past weekend i met a pastor from the church down the street .incredibily nice guy .
Things were so overwhelming for me that I didn't know how I was going to make it. Some of the things I did that helped was to first decide that I would figure it out no matter how long it takes.
I took councelling for about a year and a half to 2yrs. In councelling I dealt more with family and personal issues.
After my decision to leave the witnesses, I went on a reading rampage just to try and figure out what is lies and what is truth.
It is so much work, but the difference in me is huge.
Many fears are no longer there. My health has improved tremendously. Depression isn't overwhelming anymore because I have learned skills to pull myself out of it when it hits.
Decide which area needs the most attention first. Everything else will improve as one area is worked on. Then you can see clearly on what area needs your attention next.
Moanzy
ok there are so many americans on the map now i had to split you all in half.. valis was kind enough to let me place the maps on his website until i found a new home for them.. photobucket seems to be a good option - at least for now.
so i have uploaded the new maps which have been updated to include everyone who has asked.. so if you were wondering where we are from.
or how close you are to other jwd posters in your area just take a look.
I'm in Alberta, Canada right on the border of Sask and Alberta. The border runs right through our city.
Please put me on the map.
Moanzy