Posts by mnb77

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Bible John 1:1

by ArtfulDodger in

why does the dubs bible change the words from other recognised translations ?

in the normal bibles john 1:1 says "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god.

" .... but the dubs version says"... and the word was a god".

mnb77

check out this site, it has a lot of useful info on it about their deity of christ thing.

http://www.kevinquick.com/kkministries/books/reasoning/deity.html

mnb77

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TOTA

by ArtfulDodger in

what does "tota" mean .

and why should i "re-read the bible from the beginning" because of that word ?

i was told this by a jw visitor - but the word was never explained.

never see the word before, but i see reading the bible more or even over if read once before as an opportunity to find more stuff. sometimes scripture doesn't hit you the same time the second or third time through.

mnb77

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Must Read!

by Non-JW in

as a jehovah's witness you have been taught from the bible and the watchtower organization.

instead, you must trust what it tells you about its own false prophecies.

the watchtower organization tells you what to think and what to do.

mnb77

Welcome, Welcome!

Great post!

Look forward to other posts you enlighten us w/.

carm is a great set of sites.

mnb77

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JWs thoughts on Hell

by Oxnard Hamster in

the jws don't believe hell, as in the place where evil people are tortured for eternity, exists.

they reason that a loving god would not send his own creation to be tormented for eternity.. yet on the flipside, the jws preach that in 1914 (yeah, you all know this arguement.

) there was a big war in heaven, and satan and all his creatures were cast down to earth.

mnb77

here is my thoughts on hell:

if while here on earth you want nothing to do with God, well fine, once on the other side he will do as you wished and have nothing to do with you by putting you in hell (total separation from God). God is pleasant well apart from him, it is unpleasant. simple as it comes!

if you ask for it you will get it!

mnb77

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The Only True Church

by danielweatherlee in

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does god have a true church on the earth today?yes,and i will reveal it.it is the free will baptist church,which is true in every sense.they preach jesus,they study god's word correctly and rightly divide the word of truth.they are not led by a distant leader,they are led by their local leader chosen by god.if the sign out front doesn't say free will baptist then you are in the wrong church.look for that sign,and then you've found the right church.

mnb77

welcome Danielweatherlee,

Follow the bible and the God who inspired it and we will all be okay!

the end will show who God thought was okay!

mnb77

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Theological question: When did God create the Devil if...

by logansrun in

st. augustine speculated that god exists outside of time.

this viewpoint would seem to make sense in our modern understanding of physics since time is dependent upon space; time is not an absolute, and it is not linear.

god, according to augustine and other theologians, sees all of history as one eternal present moment.

mnb77

totally some thing to make me go hummm....

I do believe that God is outside of time (meaning that he doesn't feel time as we do with growing old and such) but I do believe that there has been a progression of things that have occured in the heavenly realms (in Daniel where dan prayed an the angle was delayed in giving him the answer, and where the devil (former angel) was spued from heaven, mentioned in rev. but happened before gen.) I do think that god as JC came to earth as our perfect attonement, taking on our time suits (bodies) so he would be a perfect canidate to deal with our type of sin.

A big giant Now is like when we were kids...everything was as we perceived it in the moment then.

i think the spirit (gloified body) world will be a bunch coasier than here.

mnb77

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I'm searching for answers....

by nedryerson in

i have been studying your faith and i understand that you believe in the bible?

1. in revelation 1:8, it says, ?

?i am the alpha and the omega,?

mnb77

double posting sorry

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I'm searching for answers....

by nedryerson in

i have been studying your faith and i understand that you believe in the bible?

1. in revelation 1:8, it says, ?

?i am the alpha and the omega,?

mnb77

this is the reason I believe the trinity look at things but any way,

Revelation 1:8

(1) "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

1. The use of the phrase, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty" has led to a debate. Is God the Father or God the Son referred to in verse 8? In the parallel passages of Rev. 1:17; 21:6; 22:1, Christ is equated with Almighty God. Yet, the Father is consistently identified with the same titles. Trying to decide which member of the Godhead is identified in verse 8 is impossible. It is as if both members are speaking at the same time. This may be closer to the truth John intends. This prophecy stands as the unanimous consent of God the Father and God the Son.

Revelation 21:5

(1) And He who sits on the throne said, (2) "Behold, I am making all things new." (3) And He said, "Write, for these words are faithful and true."

1. And He who sits on the throne said = is a direct reference to God the Father. This is one of the few direct references to the Father in the Revelation. The Father speaks.

2. Behold, I am making all things new = is a bit strange at first glance. One would think that given the context that this sentence would read, "I have made all things new." However, as it stands, it appears that God is still in the act of creating all things new.

3. He said, "Write, for these words are faithful and true" = applies to the whole book of Revelation and not just this section.

Revelation 21:6

(1) And He said to me, "It is done. (2) I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. (3) I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost.

1. And He said to me, "It is done?" = indicates completion. Unfortunately, it is not clear what is finished. In context, one would assume that God?s new creation is finished, but this is guessing.

2. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end = basically is two ways of saying the same thing. The phrase focuses on the absolute power and sovereignty of God.

3. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost = is metaphorical way of referring to eternal life. What was promised for thousands of years is now fulfilled. Progressive sanctification finally results in absolute glorification.

Revelation 21:7

(1) He who overcomes shall inherit these things, and (2) I will be his God and he will be My son.

1. He who overcomes shall inherit these things = reiterates the promise. The overcomer gets "all these things." This refers to the list outlined in verse four above.

2. I will be his God and he will be My son = is singular, nevertheless it applies to all of those who are overcomers. This is a great promise. Overcomers will be adopted as "sons" of God. All the rights and privileges of sonship come with this promise. This is beyond human comprehension. The road from being the objects of ridicule and scorn to "sonship" is the heart of this revelation. We are sons of God.

Revelation 22:12-13

"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."

Some use passages such as this to support a claim that the return of Christ to rapture the church to heaven is imminent (could happen at any moment). A position rendered nonsensical by 2000 years of human history. In what sense can the Lord?s return be termed "a quick coming?" Unless the term quick has changed, it cannot refer to time. It has been 2000 years since the Lord returned to Glory. Quick can refer to the manner of the Lord?s return. In other words, the Lord?s return will happen very quickly. The Lord emphasizes the quickness of His return because the level of suffering the believers will be experiencing during the persecution of Satan/Antichrist against the saints will be unparalleled. Once the Lord sets out to rescue the elect, it will happen very quickly ? in the twinkling of any eye!

this is how i see it!!! no so much a JW, but the other answers should show you how far they swayed from what it says!

mnb77

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Why didn't jesus write the new testement

by Satanus in

questions, questions, and more questions.. did jesus (if he existed) have in mind starting a world religion such as has been created around him in his name?

if so, why did he not write the foundations for it, laying out it's laws and structure?

why did he only rebel and lead a rebellion against the old testement priesthood?

mnb77

Two thoughts to this:

1) the reason why JC didn't write the stuff was because he didn't want to be an example for all the JW Leaders.

2) The Bible: God inspired, man written

and with the Trinity idea, Jesus is God so he put it all together

mnb77

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Another example of a loving God.

by jula71 in

i was looking through the newest wt just to see what "new light" there is now.

i came across the questions from readers, and i was amazed by what i read.

from the may 15, 2005 wt, the question was "why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?

mnb77

In those times children paid for the sins of the father. I honestly cant see this a okay but during those times, that was the way it worked. It was a sort of punishment for david because sons at that time were "inheritance" look in psalms or proverbs cant remember and girls were only "presents".

hope that helps understanding

mnb77