NEAT BLUE DOG:
Wow, anybody who would do that to their child in public is sick.
It’s too bad that the JW religion instills this kind of cruelty in some people. A parent that does sick shit like this deserves unloving treatment in return.
i did this in my facebook group for my podcast and it was fun.. so what's the craziest thing you ever saw?.
for me it was watching a brother have a heart attack during the meeting in the auditorium.
i was a kid and noticed him shaking and acting strange.
NEAT BLUE DOG:
Wow, anybody who would do that to their child in public is sick.
It’s too bad that the JW religion instills this kind of cruelty in some people. A parent that does sick shit like this deserves unloving treatment in return.
so we binge-watched the waco mini-series on netflix.. wow, what a powerful and enlightening programme!
even if you think you know what happened, it gives you extra context to it all.
it's very well done even if you just want a great drama series, but it's way more than that.. there are of course some dramatization and slight historical inaccuracies for the purpose of story-telling but it was very informative.
SIMON:
I remember when Waco was happening. This was disgraceful and I’m sorry for all the unnecessary deaths.
Yes, I believe David Koresh was delusional and the rest of the adults there as well. He was running his little kingdom and getting to have sex with whomever he wanted. But, did they all deserve to die the way they did? I don’t think so.
A recipe for disaster and bloodshed and having the government come down with a sledgehammer:..just start your own cult or group out in the desert somewhere - and then let it be known that you have a cache of weapons. You’ll get a real Armageddon!
the 1983 film educating rita, written by willy russell and starring michael caine and julie walters, is one of the finest stories ever told.
julie's character is the eponymous working class hairdresser and michael caine plays professor frank bryant her open university tutor assigned, against his will, to teach her english literature.
the dialogue is brilliant and funny but it is the dilemma of an awakening rita caught between two worlds that is deeply moving.
COFTY:
I remember seeing this movie years ago.
Unless my memory is wrong, I thought she didn’t show up for the gathering because she felt she would just be an object of curiosity by all those snooty people.
watchtower president dies of covid-19.
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petra!.
If this story is unconfirmed or untrue, the thread should be locked.
Does anybody have any confirmation that this is true?
i am just curious if anyone knows whether the "friends" still are required to wear "meeting clothes" for attending meetings through zoom?
such emphasis on dressing in a godly manner over the decades, would be interesting if some attend in pajamas or their work clothes, no makeup, etc....
JEREMIAH:
Most definitely. They get all dressed up just to sit in their own living room..
THEN they have people (uninvited guests if you will)..able to see into THEIR home and they get criticized because there is a picture of a sports figure or whatever hanging on THEIR walls.
The level of intrusiveness is through the roof and it’s too bad the average JWs’ sensibilities are so eroded they have been reduced to a level they tolerate anything! I just cannot believe it.
Anybody with any brains there should switch the damn thing off.
PETE ZAHUT:
Yes, tickets non-refundable...pick up the shattered pieces of your life!
I came into the religion a few years after 1975 and never heard a word mentioned about this...It wasn’t until years later I learned some people quit their jobs, sold homes, etc. - and had to start all over again after the year ended and Paradise never materialized.
posting for brother x. petra!.
if you were a child during the years of 1960 to 1970, the question isn't; do you remember these conventions?
the question is; how could you forget?
SMIDDY3:
I also thank the Cosmos that I wasn’t brought up a JW.. I was raised Catholic. I got involved with JWs as young adult and I remember the hot and uncomfortable District Conventions in Yankee Stadium, getting up early and being dead tired.
One time my car group volunteered for food service. Got there at a ridiculously early hour..Hours later, when I got back to my seat..my belongings (bible/songbook) were moved into the aisle by a bunch of little bastards!..Of course my handbag was always with me!! You couldn’t pay me to ever do this again.
I remember one summer the convention was in the Philadelphia stadium in hundred degree heat.. I went with three older people. It was a disaster with the heat being so oppressive and people passing out. Come Sunday morning we had Enough!..and headed home.
The highlight of the trip was us going out to restaurants..We got no spiritual food that weekend!
one thing that aggravates me is long concluding prayers, especially at the midweek meeting.
you work all day, rush home, grab a quick bite, dress up in meeting clothes.
then, go to the meeting.
DAVROS:
The problem with long prayers is that sometimes someone doesn’t pray enough on their own time OR also because some brother thinks it’s his right to teach everybody a lesson. Running overtime shows his contempt for everybody’s private time among other things.
Unfortunately, the Witness religion lends itself to be a place where elders can be little dictators...I remember an arrogant older brother who thought he was ‘lordly’ and was prone to looong prayers!
He was the book study conductor for a time. One evening I got up and walked out while he droned on. If he were still living I would LOVE to tell him I’m not in the religion anymore and what I think about the whole thing.
hello all, hope everyone is doing good!!!!.
so my wife tells me yesterday....on saturday we having a emergency disaster class on saturday.
kinda like most corporation have and it's through zoom.
PETE ZAHUT:
Again, what that brother said sums up what would REALLY happen if (God forbid) things became really dire. The ‘brotherhood’ is an illusion that will evaporate. I knew this years ago.
Back in the day when everybody was younger and WItnesses were at gatherings feeling good, etc..it was easy to think that people would ‘be there’ for you.. Of course, nobody thought about age, people moving away, people leaving the religion OR a worldwide pandemic that would stop everything in its tracks.
This Covid crisis had better be a wakeup call for the JWs. I would rather KNOW I am on my own than have a false hope that I’m going to have support that ends up not materializing.
As you said, if the religion only offers up advice already published elsewhere and NOT offer a morsel of material assistance now - what good would they possibly be at some future time in a worse predicament?
when i was looking at prepping back in the 90s i was told by several elders that we needed to just rely on the org and jehovah and not prep.
i started to put away vacuum sealed bags of rice beans and spices anyway.
now they have this go bag crap.
PETE ZAHUT:
Witnesses entertain fantasies about the great tribulation and Armageddon..I felt that some thought they were going to hold hands and sing lah di dah into the new system.
The admission by that elder was sobering. “He is not in charge of other people’s lives.” (ie. the “friends” are on their own) 🤣...Here you thought it was going to be everybody looking out for everybody else (their friends in the hall). Meanwhile, this guy was worried about the reality of making a living and feeding his family!.. (We know now in this pandemic that would mean we have to have a functioning infrastructure and supply chain!)
Your comment to your wife was right on target!..If she were to be alone: would she be included in whatever??..Let me tell you right now: as a single woman I can attest to the fact that she would NOT be..Even under ideal conditions back then, I was viewed as an outcast - with maybe a few elderly or person here and there being kind...SO, I knew full well if there was any kind of real disaster I would be on my own.
This is why I am forever grateful I followed my instincts and held onto my job until Retirement..I cannot imagine the scenario for a needy single older woman dependent on the charity and mercy of people in the religion??😳..How would she REALLY be viewed in a time of disaster and privation like the great tribulation when people are worrying about themselves??..I’m so glad I’m not in that religion anymore.
Anybody’s Go-bag would make them feel good for a very short time.